<div dir="ltr">Thanks Milton. <div><br></div><div>I think you missed considering Ayden's proposal. We need to decide on Tatiana and Karel's requests urgently as the meetings are gonna be held this month. </div><div><br></div><div>Others please give us your opinion now. Joao, please give us your opinion on Karel's proposal. it's your region.</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik, shall we have a deadline for deciding on at least for the ones that will be too late to allocate? </div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Farzaneh </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 April 2016 at 18:17, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Review of CROPP proposals<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">James provides a broad and rather vague plan that sounds like general support for his organization.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sonigitu proposes to go to an open government event that is not focused on the Internet at all. Not a good place for NCUC outreach.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Remmy, APC, Benjamin and Farrel all propose to go to the African Internet Summit.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I believe that all but the APC proposals are weak and involve little more than us supporting their week-long travel there. Some would be quite expensive ($2000)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">APC says they will run a panel session which they say is focused on NCUC promotion (hopefully it will do that, and not just promote APC membership).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Drake proposes an unbudgeted level of support for his attendance at EuroDIG in Brussels, to present his WEF-supported fragmentation paper.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Karel proposes a presence at CIVICUS meeting. The CIVICUS meeting seems newer ground for recruiting to me but also tougher because it is not focused on internet
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Both of these are important and good venues. I lean slightly toward the Karel proposal if others can vouch for him. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Vidushi and Aarthi propose participation on panels at the AP Region IGF in Taiwan. Both of them are very good diplomats for NCUC but they would be participating
ion panels that are already heavily populated with NCUC people (Rafik, Monika, Arun, Pranesh)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Soumya has a very unclear and broad plan to set up some kind of organizational structure for India – I do not think this idea is even eligible for CROPP support<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 4, 2016 10:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> farzaneh badii <</span><a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Review of CROPP proposals<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- checking with Staff, we can allocate slots for July using this year allocation but it would make sense to use FY17 slots instead (we should start the call at early stage )<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- as suggested we can support with some limit using NCUC funding.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Africa</b>: I can see that Anriette, Benjamin, Farrel, James and Remmy have applied for the same conference, Africa Internet Summit. As to Farrel, I think the proposal is not convincing enough.He needs more time to get acquainted with
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