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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Thanks Tapani for that tip. Now I know :)<div><br></div><div>I know Joseph can sometimes be stubborn and insists on budgets. I have wondered what ICANN would do if it was an NGO surviving on donor funds. It does sometimes feel as if ICANN is struggling. <div><br></div><div>Rgds</div><div>Grace</div><div><br><div>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 14:18:19 -0800<br>> From: ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info<br>> To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br>> CC: ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Question<br>> <br>> Dear Grace,<br>> <br>> It seems to be a rather too common occurrence that Constituency Travel<br>> offers tightest possible travel times and you had insist that you<br>> need the extra day and on occasion escalate the request, that is, ask<br>> for Rafik or me to intervene. You weren't the only one with that<br>> problem, in some cases it took non-trivial effort from me to get<br>> appropriate travels arranged.<br>> <br>> Unfortunately I didn't proactively check with our travelers<br>> but assumed things were under ok for those who didn't complain. :-(<br>> <br>> Anyway, this advice is now too late to help you, but<br>> next time don't take CT's instructions as final - if they<br>> offer you travel times that don't match what you expect,<br>> tell them so, and if it doesn't work ask for our help.<br>> <br>> Sincerely,<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Tapani Tarvainen<br>> <br>> On Feb 04 21:42, Grace Githaiga (ggithaiga@hotmail.com) wrote:<br>> <br>> > Thanks Rafik.I have just checked my mail and I actually did indicate I would be available. Just registering here. <br>> > Anyway water under the bridge. <br>> > Thanks for your response Rafik.RgdsGrace<br>> > From: rafik.dammak@gmail.com<br>> > Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 06:36:20 +0900<br>> > Subject: Re: Question<br>> > To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br>> > CC: seekcommunications@hotmail.com; ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > <br>> > hi Grace,<br>> > the extension of an extra night i.e. arriving on Tuesday was made by Tapani few weeks ago, after he checked with everyone coming from NCSG/NCUC/NPOC and that info was shared with travel constituency and GNSO staff.there was no emission from our side.<br>> > Best,<br>> > Rafik<br>> > 2016-02-05 6:27 GMT+09:00 Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I understand that there was an NCUC meeting yesterday. I realize I was not aware of that (either through commission or commission). But how is it that everyone was around (allowed to arrive a day earlier) and I was only allowed to arrive yesterday and strictly for three days? Who made the decision? I know Rafik has been away but would appreciate some explanation from whoever was organizing for this. <br>> > Thanks.Grace<br>> > <br>> > From: rafik.dammak@gmail.com<br>> > Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 05:51:03 +0900<br>> > To: seekcommunications@hotmail.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] 答复: The candidates for PC<br>> > CC: ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > <br>> > hi,<br>> > looking to hear from the rest of NCUC EC members and if they have any rationale for their choices.<br>> > Rafk<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 2016-02-04 15:49 GMT+09:00 Peter Green <seekcommunications@hotmail.com>:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Dear Rafik and EC members,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > First of all, definitely support Matthew's intent to continue his role on the NCSG PC.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > For the second nominee, after reviewing the applications we have received, including the additional two new ones from Tatiana and Arun, I am more inclined<br>> > to support Tatiana's application.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > For the PC, we need people who are truly good at drafting policy comment documents. When I review Tatiana's background, I am much impressed that her background is close to our target, see that "[her] primary<br>> > specialization is cybersecurity and cybercrime policy/law/regulation", in addition, she had ever served as a lawyer. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Taking the above into consideration, I would support Tatiana to work with Matthew.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Thank you.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Best Regards<br>> > Peter<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 发件人: NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org> 代表 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com><br>> > <br>> > 发送时间: 2016年2月4日 2:05<br>> > <br>> > 收件人: Rafik Dammak<br>> > <br>> > 抄送: Exec. Comm; Milton Mueller<br>> > <br>> > 主题: Re: [NCUC-EC] The candidates for PC<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Hi rafik <br>> > The new applications were those of Tatiana which I sent and arun which he sent directly to EC. <br>> > <br>> > Best <br>> > On 3 Feb 2016 17:49, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Hi Farzaneh,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > can you please resend the updated list of applicants?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Best,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Rafik<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 2016-02-02 19:55 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <br>> > <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Hi Rafik, others<br>> > I support Tatiana's application. I think she and Matt will be a great team. She has actually contributed to writing up public comments for ncsg. And she has an excellent academic and policy background. <br>> > <br>> > Best <br>> > <br>> > Farzaneh <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On 2 Feb 2016 11:21, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Hi everyone,<br>> > Please find below an application from Tatiana for NCSG PC.<br>> > Best,<br>> > Rafik <br>> > <br>> > =============================== <br>> > Dear Rafik,<br>> > I would like to throw my hat in the ring and apply for the PC representative.<br>> > <br>> > I have been an NCUC member since last year and have been attending several ICANN meetings since 2013 (three in person and followed several remotely). I got informed about the work of NCUC before I joined the constituency: this information helped me to take<br>> > a decision to become a part of the NCUC and to try to to the work of the NCUC as much as I can. Though I am not a real ICANN or NCUC veteran, joining NCUC was not a symbolic step for me - I didn't become a member just to have a kind of affiliation. Since last<br>> > year, after joining the constituency, I have been participating in such working groups as CCWG-accountability and CCWP on ICANN's Corporate and Social Responsibility to Respect Human Rights. Within relatively short time frame of my participation in those groups<br>> > I became very actively engaged in human rights issues, trying to promote the official commitment of the ICANN to respect human rights and to create a framework of interpretation for such commitment. <br>> > <br>> > However, I believe that I can contribute much more into the work of NCUC than only working on human rights, to add more value concerning other processes and issues. One of my particular interests is policy. This is why I would like to serve as NCUC representative<br>> > on NCSG Policy Committee. <br>> > <br>> > About my experience and affiliation: I am working at Max Planck Institute for Foreign and International Criminal Law in Freiburg, Germany (I am participating in NCUC as individual). This "academic" affiliation includes not only research work, but practical<br>> > impact projects related to policy and legislation. My primary specialization is cybersecurity and cybercrime policy/law/regulation, but in the recent years I dived into the broader topic of internet governance. In addition, I have a Master's degree related<br>> > to the telecom policy and regulation and I was a practicing lawyer in this field for several years in Russia. I think this combination of my past experience (which might be not directly related to the PC representative role, but it provides me with a solid<br>> > background for further development) can allow me to participate actively in the PC work and to get myself quickly acquainted with any new areas. <br>> > Best regards<br>> > <br>> > Ok I will send the extension of the deadline.<br>> > <br>> > Just to repeat my position, I only support Matt nomination and still looking for the second rep.<br>> > Rafik <br>> > On Jan 30, 2016 7:09 PM, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > hi everyone,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > unless I heart a strong objection I will extend the deadline till next Wednesday.<br>> > I think we should do the same for SCI too,<br>> > after collecting the different applications for the different calls we initiated, we should start the selection/appointment. but lets compile the name first.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Best,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Rafik<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 2016-01-30 4:09 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Hi.<br>> > While people may declare being members of working groups , it doesn't mean having substantial experience for policy work unfortunately.<br>> > <br>> > I support re-appointing Matt and extending the deadline for applications.<br>> > <br>> > Rafik <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On Jan 29, 2016 7:55 PM, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ok I can see that Sonigitu has experience with working with working groups and also I have seen that he has been active in Internet governance fora. I support him as the alternate on PC. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Peter, Grace and Rafik please let us know so that we announce the names. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On 29 January 2016 at 19:46, João Carlos Rebello Caribé <br>> > <caribe@entropia.blog.br> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I'm with you Milton<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Em 29/01/2016, às 16:06, Mueller, Milton L escreveu:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Of the 4, I too would support Matt’s continuance and would support Sonigitu Ekpe as additional or alternate<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > From: NCUC-EC [mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org] On<br>> > Behalf Of farzaneh badii<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:42 AM<br>> > <br>> > To: Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org><br>> > <br>> > Subject: [NCUC-EC] The candidates for PC<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > All <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > As Rafik requested, I have compiled the candidates who want to represent NCUC on PC. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Matt, our previous PC would like to continue. I support Matt's application. Now we need an alternate. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I quite appreciate the enthusiasms of our members and we should think of some avenues on how to involve them more but for PC, experience with the policy process is very critical. If we need more candidates to choose from (which I think we do) please let me<br>> > know so that we extend the deadline. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Best <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Farzaneh<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > <br>> > http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --<br>> > <br>> > João Carlos R. Caribé<br>> > <br>> > Multidisciplinary Consultant <br>> > NETmundial Initiative Counselor<br>> > ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > http://about.me/caribe<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Skype joaocaribe<br>> > <br>> > +55(021) 9 8761 1967<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > -- <br>> > <br>> > Farzaneh <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > <br>> > http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>> > <br>> > NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > <br>> > http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>> > NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > NCUC-EC mailing list<br>> > NCUC-EC@lists.ncuc.org<br>> > http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec<br></div></div></div> </div></body>
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