<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Ncsg charter takes precedence of ncuc here and it recognize the ability of members to join up to 3 constituencies without restriction. <br>
The group below is for stakeholder group in this csse.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Rafik </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 20, 2015 2:47 AM, "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Rafik,</div>
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<div>Thank you for your response.</div>
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<div>Based on further reading/research, from the GNSO Operating Procedures (<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-24jun15-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-24jun15-en.pdf</a>) under 6.1.2 (J), it states that: </div>
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<div><i>No legal or natural person should be a voting member of more than one Group.</i></div>
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<div>A Group is defined under 6.1.1:</div>
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<div><i>All Stakeholder Groups/Constituencies (here-in-after called Groups) should adopt the rules below for participation. Such rules and procedures should be part of their Charters.</i></div>
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<div>Please I am wondering how this stands with VI.B.3.I in the NCUC Charter.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size:13px">Many thanks,</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, 6 November 2015 16:40<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>, "Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi Maryam,</p>
<p dir="ltr">You mean members of both ncuc and npoc. That article in bylaw concerned historically , the contracted and commercial constituencies.
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<p dir="ltr">Best.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 7, 2015 1:37 AM, "Maryam Bakoshi" <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div>Thank you, Bill. </div>
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<div>These are the names. Please let me know how you would want us to proceed.</div>
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American Red Cross</td>
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Debra Hughes</td>
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<a href="mailto:hughesdeb@usa.redcross.org" target="_blank">hughesdeb@usa.redcross.org</a></td>
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British Red Cross</td>
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Michael Meyer</td>
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<a href="mailto:MMeyer@redcross.org.uk" target="_blank">MMeyer@redcross.org.uk</a></td>
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Free and Open Source Software Foundation for Africa (FOSSFA)</td>
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Norbert GLAKPE</td>
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<a href="mailto:cto@fossfa.net" target="_blank">cto@fossfa.net</a></td>
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Internet Society (ISOC) Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter</td>
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Jahangir Hossain</td>
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<a href="mailto:jrjahangir@gmail.com" target="_blank">jrjahangir@gmail.com</a> </td>
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INTIC4DEV - Institut des TIC pour le développement</td>
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KOUAMI Ayaovi Olévié Agbényo</td>
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<a href="mailto:olivierkouami@gmail.com" target="_blank">olivierkouami@gmail.com</a></td>
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ISOC Armenia</td>
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Grigori Saghyan</td>
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Swathanthra Malayalam Computing</td>
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Anivar A Aravind</td>
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ISOC-Yemen</td>
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Ahmed Almarwani</td>
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gedaref digital city org.</td>
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ahmed mahmoud eisa</td>
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<a href="mailto:ahmed22digital@gmail.com" target="_blank">ahmed22digital@gmail.com</a></td>
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<div><span style="font-size:13px">Many thanks,</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, 6 November 2015 16:06<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"Exec. Comm" <<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>>, NCUC Bylaws Revision Committee <<a href="mailto:bylaws@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">bylaws@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Org Reps in Multiple Constituencies<br>
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<div>Greetings from Brazil. Good catch. If there people representing orgs in other constituencies (the revised ‘charter' should also say Stakeholder Group, and perhaps be stronger in language) then this is is a problem. I personally don’t keep track of such
cases. If you are able to comb through the members list and identify people in this category that would be exceptionally useful information. We could then reach out to them to discuss solutions. </div>
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<div>On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>As I was going through the charter in preparation for the elections, and I saw VI.B.3.I which states:</div>
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3. The following individuals are ineligible to serve as the Official Representative of their organization (for the purposes of voting):</p>
<div><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);line-height:21px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">i. An individual who holds the power to vote in another constituency or on the ICANN Board.</span></div>
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