<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Rafik. Guess I don’t have to wait for her reply.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So then my question remains, if part of our thinking here is people who’ve never received support from us, shouldn’t there be some preference for those who are engaged in the work and life of NCUC.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BD</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Hi,</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Farzaneh cannot apply as fellow anymore and last time she came as "coach" for new fellows.<br class="">
The fellows list includes alumni, and the names listed below are former fellow like fahd who is icann staff now. Janice try to have the new and alumni fellows.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Discussed previously with farzaneh, I know that she doesnt have any funding and coming by herself. That is why she applied for ncuc support.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Rafik </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 22, 2015 7:41 PM, "William Drake" <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Weird. Why would be a Fellow but not on the list, why would she ask for air fare if she has it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So one more secretarial task for me to spend cycles on.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Will let you know.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BD<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank" class="">ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class="">I thought Farzaneh was coming but is only partially funded,<br class="">which would also explain why she asked for so little.<br class=""><br class="">But it shouldn't take long to ask her directly to confirm.<br class=""><br class="">Tapani<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 22 10:29, Grace Githaiga (<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>) wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: <a href="mailto:janice.lange@icann.orgTo" target="_blank" class="">janice.lange@icann.orgTo</a>: <a href="mailto:Fellowships-alumni@icann.orgDate" target="_blank" class="">Fellowships-alumni@icann.orgDate</a>: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 23:41:19 +0000CC: <a href="mailto:deborah.escalera@icann.orgSubject" target="_blank" class="">deborah.escalera@icann.orgSubject</a>: [fellowships-alumni] ICANN54 - who is coming to Dublin?Hi everyone!Reaching out to see who of the alumni, not currently part of the ICANN54 Fellowship, are coming to Dublin. So far, I know Alejandra, Sorina and Farzaneh are definitely coming, as well as Siranush, Fahd, and Albert. Beran and Mamadou are trying…First, it’s nice to know as I really want to try and make sure to see you :)Second, because Wisdom is our ICANN Information Booth Lead and will be reaching out to everyone for support in early October, once the ICANN Meeting schedule is publicly posted.Third, have some good information on airport and city transportation, good places to go out etc.So please write back OFFLIST to just Wisdom and I – so everyone doesn’t get hit with multiple emails :)Have a Great Week!<br class=""><br class="">Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Deciding on the applications for Dublin travel support<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br class="">Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:25:25 +0200<br class="">CC: <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br class=""><br class="">Hi Grace<br class=""><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowships-2012-02-25-en" target="_blank" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowships-2012-02-25-en</a><br class="">Where do you see her?<br class="">BD<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:Because I saw on the fellows list that she is actually going which I interpreted to mean she has funding already. <br class=""><br class="">Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Deciding on the applications for Dublin travel support<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br class="">Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:23:40 +0200<br class="">CC: <a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank" class="">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>; <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br class=""><br class="">just wondering, why would affirmative action not apply to Farzi, who is actually engaged and contributing?<br class="">On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:Hi Bill<br class="">I personally know both Jeremy and Jyoti as very good candidates and quite serious in their work. I am also thinking that James (yes my countryman who I do not know or never met) has applied a couple of times. How do we ensure we keep such people engaged? Knowing that ICANN is complex and one would benefit from face to face participation?<br class="">I would therefore suggest we forget those who have already benefited, and give both 1300 to Jeremy, Jyoti and James (yes for affirmative action).<br class="">RgdsGrace<br class=""><br class="">From: <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br class="">Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:40:36 +0200<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank" class="">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a><br class="">CC: <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Deciding on the applications for Dublin travel support<br class=""><br class="">Hi<br class="">Ok thanks, others please weigh in.<br class="">I have checked with Jyoti and like Jeremy if we are only able to provide partial support her home institution would be able to help get her there.<br class="">I suppose another way we could do it, sort of squaring the circle between the first two suggestions below, would be to offer James and Farzaneh exactly what they asked for and then split the remainder of the up to $4,000 evenly between Jeremy and Jyoti?<br class="">Bill<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Joao Carlos Caribe <<a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank" class="">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>> wrote:My suggestion is to support:<br class="">Jeremy Malcom - 2000Farzaneh - 313James Gannon - 515<br class=""><br class="">For partial suppoort remains $ 1172My first choice is Jyoti<br class="">My second option was divided between James Gitau and Benjamin. Benjamin was supported once, and fulfill the requirements we would be considered again, James Gitau would be a blind bet, but considerable for regional diversity. <br class=""><br class="">_João Carlos Caribé(21) 9 8761 1967Skype joaocaribe<br class="">Enviado via iPad<br class="">Em 18 de set de 2015, às 08:18, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> escreveu:<br class=""><br class="">Hi<br class="">On Sep 14, 2015, at 3:57 PM, João Carlos Rebello Caribé <<a href="mailto:caribe@entropia.blog.br" target="_blank" class="">caribe@entropia.blog.br</a>> wrote:Also I suggest to organize this kind of application in a platform at least as a Google Form, that fill a spreadsheet. I can do it to see if work on next round of applications. For now we can prototype. <br class="">So I guess this didn’t happen. But let’s move on and not make this too complicated. Again, the first CFP yielded only one app, from Arun, and we gave it to him, but then an extra ICANN full support slot opened up so we moved him to that and reopened the call. Six applications this time, curious but whatever.<br class="">We say in the policy <br class="">For each meeting, up to two members may each receive support of up to US $2,000. Covered travel expenses may include conference-related airfare, visas or related fees, lodging, and airport taxis. If the actual cost of these items is greater than $2,000 the member will be responsible for the difference. NCUC cannot provide a per diem or cover other expenses.<br class="">On the assumption that applicants would need air fare plus at least some hotel covered in order to attend, we didn’t bother with specifying that the up to $4,000 could be divided more ways if we want to offer partial support to more people. But since it’s not ruled out, I'd think it’s ok if that’s what we want to do.<br class="">Requests Received:<br class="">1. James Gannon (Ireland) requests 450 euros (US $515) for hotels so he doesn't have to travel 100 kilometers back and forth from home to Dublin. Relevant considerations: he’s inter alia helping to organize our Saturday outreach event and heavily involved in the accountability work, but also received support from us before.<br class="">2. Jeremy Malcolm (Australia) filed a standard request for the up to US $2,000. First time applicant, member organization. I checked with him whether, if we made a partial offer EFF might be able to make up the difference, and he thought so. Relevant considerations: he brought a very influential NGO to NCUC so we would very much like to engage him/them more. He’s already submitted multiple statements on privacy etc, albeit thus far as EFF solo rather than as part of NCUC. Three EC members have already expressed support for him.<br class="">3. Benjamin Akinmoyeje (Nigeria) filed a standard request for the up to US $2,000. Relevant considerations: we paid for him to attend Singapore, our first grantee under the program. Haven’t heard much from him since, but he says he’s involved in the the Data and Metrics for Policy Making WG.<br class="">4. James Njoroge Gitau (Kenya) filed a standard request for the up to US $2,000. Relevant considerations: he applied for travel support for Singapore and for Buenos Aires. I am unaware of any involvements beyond being on the discuss list.<br class="">5. Farzaneh Badii (Iran) requests 274 euros (US $313) for airfare from Germany and visas. First time applicant. I believe she’s probably underestimating her costs a bit in the hope we’ll help and she makes up the difference elsewhere. Relevant considerations: active participant in CCWG-Accountability, working on DIDP stuff with Ed and Sarah, and I’ve asked her to be a conversation starter at our outreach event Saturday.<br class="">6. Jyoti Panday (India) filed a standard request for the up to US $2,000. First time applicant, member organization. Relevant considerations: like Jeremy, increasingly active but so far mostly for her home org rather than NCUC, but indicates a strong desire to get into the stream with us on such items as DIDP, domain seizure and blocking, privacy & proxy services accreditation issues working group, human rights.<br class="">So, tough call.<br class="">Bearing in mind the need to focus on getting people to the meeting who are already involved in something pressing, or who are likely to get more engaged in NCUC and become real contributors, one solution might be to divide one of the regular slots as follows: James up to $500, Farzeneh up to $500, and Jeremy up to $1,000; and offer the other full slot up to $2,000 to Jyoti. Actual amounts depend on receipts submitted to Milton for airfare, visas or related fees, lodging, and airport taxis.<br class="">Other ideas? Thoughts? 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