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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi<div><br><div><blockquote><div>On Aug 9, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncuc@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO">ncuc@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;">Given that Bill has already been nominated, it might be best</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;">for someone else in the EC to handle the process,</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;">including sending a call for nominations, collecting</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;">replies and handling the discussion and vote within EC.</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div>I just replied to a private message from Peter before seeing this list conversation. As I said</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div>On Aug 9, 2015, at 2:33 PM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div></div></blockquote><br><blockquote><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div>I forwarded the message from the Nomcom staff on 4 August. That <i>was</i> an open call, in forwarding it I was saying we have to fill this slot. Moreover, I pointed out in reply to Remmy,</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote><div>On Aug 4, 2015, at 6:13 PM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="display:inline !important;">Obviously, other members can throw their hats in the ring as well, and I will recuse myself from the EC¡¯s selection process.</span></div></blockquote></div><div><div><span style="display:inline !important;"><br></span></div></div><div>There¡¯s no specific bylaws procedure to follow, and this has never been a problem before. I doubt anyone is confused about the matter, and two people have publicly expressed interest in being considered. Do you think there¡¯s someone who doesn¡¯t understand?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><div><br></div><div>While I don¡¯t recall any previous EC appointment being turned into a spectacle or requiring procedural formalization (usually what it has required in my time is me pestering people repeatedly to please accept appointments, including for the Nomcom), I guess this case is different.</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#d24726">Yes, Bill, agree with you. This case is different now as Remmy has expressed his interest in the NomCom position, thus leading to some sort of competition situation. So previously an appointment becomes a procedural selection. </font></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;">As I have added at the end of the follow-up email, this proves people are more involved in this Consituency.</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;">The EC has to put it on the table, otherwise people will complain about transparency issues.</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Peter, could you please send a note to the list saying the EC will accept nominations on the timeline you suggested? Also, I think it would be useful to remind people somehow what this actually requires in terms of work and relationships and representation and why we have always been very careful to pick people who are a good fit, as indicated previously:</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#d24726">I have sent a follow-up call, with the points I think we should cover. </font><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;">Please see the email. </span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(210, 71, 38); font-size: 12pt;">If I have missed some points, please let me know.</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote><div>On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:03 AM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><div>inter alia,</div><div><br></div><div>a. Record of involvement with NCUC, contributions to the group, participation in its work, reliable linkages to people in various leadership positions and the general membership for the purpose of consultation, information flow, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>b. A specification of Nomcom no. 2: wide contacts in and experience with global civil society, so that the person can plausibly try to recruit top people for top positions (e.g. there are board slots to fill).</div><div><br></div><div>c. An ability to play well with other children. The Nomcom is dominated by business groupings, ALAC, etc., and the politics and strategic games can be rather intense. We actually had a NCUC representative resign a couple years ago in frustration, so it¡¯s important that the person has the stomach for shenanigans, knows what the other groupings are trying to do and why, and can work with them well and be taken seriously.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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