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<p><font size="2">I will reply more extensively later today, but as a conversation starter, I support option 3. As someone who supported this idea from the start, and contributed to draft the guidelines/requirements, I think we should abide to what we state
there. Hopefully, this would also encourage people to get more involved to be able to apply and have more chances next round.
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<p><font size="2">But I am also curious to know what Grace thinks, and whether she can add any insights.
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<p><font size="2">Thanks to Bill for getting this going. </font></p>
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<b>Inviato:</b> sabato 20 dicembre 2014 15.17<br>
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<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Urgent: Travel Funding Applications for Singapore</font>
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<div class="">So we need to decide to do here. Per previous, on Joy Liddicoat, Roy, Grace, Stefania, and Bill have said yes, it’s important to have Joy there, she represents us on the NCSG PC. It would be good to hear from João and Zuan too.</div>
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<div class="">Regarding the second slot: I received just this morning here in Chicago a late app from Benjamin Akinmoyeje, which I’ve forwarded to the EC list. I did point out in reply to him that the announced deadline for submission was Wednesday, but said
we’d discuss it.</div>
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<div class="">1. Offer support to James Njoroge Gitau. As noted, he doesn’t meet our stated criteria of having been "actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO Working Groups [and]
Need to be at a given meeting because the above mentioned work will be advanced there.” He has indicated any particular interest or thing he’d like to get involved in. So the rationale for yes I guess would be simply to ‘take chance’ on a newbie (well, he
says he joined in 2011, but in effect would be). I do have some concern as to whether he has understood that we cannot pay him in advance, the process is reimbursement, and that we can’t provide any help with visas, official invite letters, etc.</div>
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<div class="">2. Offer support to Benjamin Akinmoyeje. On the one hand, he submitted the application 3 days late and generally doesn’t meet the criteria above and hasn’t indicated what he’d do with the opportunity. On the other hand, he did write to the member
list previously expressing an interest in development aspects, has joined several NCSG calls, and was an ICANN Fellow at the last Singapore meeting (as were Joao and Peter, maybe they have insights…?), so he does seem to be looking for ways to engage. I’m
again unclear whether he has understood that we cannot pay him in advance or otherwise help.</div>
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<div class="">3. Decline to allocate the second slot this time and encourage people to get involved in NCUC/NCSG so that a subsequent proposal would be more persuasive.</div>
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<div class="">Per previous, I would really welcome some discussion, this has to be a group decision. I would of course love to be able to extend support to new people, that’s a big part of why we did this, but they do have to be doing something in terms of
engagement…we’re not not a travel agency and this isn’t easy ICANN’s money, it’s ours. Funds we give to someone at time x are funds we cannot give to someone else at time y.</div>
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<div class="">Please advise. Grace, your insights would be especially valuable, as you are the regional rep etc.</div>
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<div class="">On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:06 AM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Our first promised task, which we can handle now via email, is to decide on applications for the newly announced travel support program for Singapore. <a href="http://www.ncuc.org/governance/travel-policy/" class="">http://www.ncuc.org/governance/travel-policy/</a> We
have received just two applications as of the deadline yesterday. The first is from Joy Liddicoat, our former GNSO Councilor and current rep to the NCSG EC. <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2014-December/001518.html" class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2014-December/001518.html</a> When
the application came in, Roy, Grace and Stefania expressed their support. Now that the app period is closed, I will express my strong support as well, I think it’s imperative that she be in Singapore. If we could hear from João and Zuan/Peter that’d be helpful
in coming to a conclusion on this.</div>
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<div class="">The other application is very different so we need to brainstorm. It is from James Njoroge Gitau. <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2014-December/001523.html" class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2014-December/001523.html</a> As
I don’t know him and there wasn’t much background info in his app message I wrote to ask for more. Hey says he joined NCUC in 2011, and that he works on a 100% voluntary basis at a Community Resource Center called KASWESHA based in a slum area in Nairobi,
offering free internet services to the less advantaged and needy communities, and also offering networking skills to women and youth using Cisco Networking Academy curriculum. Which all sounds wonderful, albeit a bit remote from ICANN issues. From what he’s
said he’s never been involved in NCUC other than voting and sending a few messages to the mail list, which a priori would suggest that he doesn’t meet two of our key criteria, "Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example constituency governance,
NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO Working Groups [and] Need to be at a given meeting because the above mentioned work will be advanced there.” Basically, while he’s been around for three years he’s not been involved, and is looking for a “first exposure”
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<div class="">I’m of two minds here. On the one hand, we want to encourage new members. On the other hand, the program was specifically created to help people who have already manifested an interest in getting engaged and really do need to be at a given meeting
because something’s happening there relevant to work they’re involved in. Those conditions obviously don’t apply here. I wonder about the signaling of either accepting someone who doesn’t even begin to reach the bar we’ve set (could unleash a flood of similar
apps in the future) and alternatively of rejecting a newbie from a developing country. I guess I incline toward the view that he should be encouraged to reapply after getting involved and being able to demonstrate this (he could for ex: join and be active
in the Members Affairs Team we will reboot, focusing precisely on newbie inreach etc). but I am open to persuasion. Two other points: If he’s 100% volunteering in a slum I’m going to guess he may not have the funds to make his own travel arrangements and
then ask for reimbursement per the policy. But we are not the World Bank, and can’t have Milton wiring $2,000 to someone in advance without knowing what may happen. Also, I would suggest that we get advice Grace on this, who also is in Nairobi, may know
him, and could perhaps follow up directly with him to clarify matters if need be. If he also would need a visa and and official letter of invite, we are in no position to provide help there (Grace maybe you can say what your experience with staff regarding
your letter for DC has been).</div>
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<div class="">Anyway, we should decide those two cases by the weekend so approved travelers can begin planning.</div>
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William J. Drake<br class="">
International Fellow & Lecturer<br class="">
Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br class="">
University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">
Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, <br class="">
ICANN, <a href="http://www.ncuc.org/" class="">www.ncuc.org</a><br class="">
<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> (direct), <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> (lists),<br class="">
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