<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:03 AM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">hi everyone,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">here the latest version of the draft agenda for NCPH meeting.</div><div class="">please review it and suggest one topic for plenary session #3. btw we will have co-chairs for each session.</div><div class="">we will have a NCSG session and we can use that as a strategical planning for 2015 (issues mapping, prioritization etc). we should also start thinking about the session we will have with Fadi and what topics we want to discuss with him.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Rob’s trying to accommodate CSG by squeezing mercilessly, don’t know if it works to do accountability and GNSO review both in session 1. But interesting to see he’s added "Discussion of
possible pre-ICANN 53 meeting conference.” to the next session, so in lieu of a direct response I gather that applying for the funding is possible.<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<!--EndFragment-->Just by way of background since I’ve not mentioned to others, below is the suggestion I made. CSG so far supports, just need to hear from IPC today.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">———————</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">William Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">NCPH conference in BA?</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">December 7, 2014 at 11:37:31 AM GMT+1<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" class="">david.olive@icann.org</a>>, Glen de Saint Géry <<a href="mailto:Glen@icann.org" class="">Glen@icann.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Robert Hoggarth <<a href="mailto:robert.hoggarth@icann.org" class="">robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>>, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>, Elisa Cooper <<a href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" class="">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>, Marilyn Cade <<a href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" class="">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>>, "Metalitz, Steven" <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com" class="">met@msk.com</a>>, Tony Holmes <<a href="mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com" class="">tonyarholmes@btinternet.com</a>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>" <<a href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>>, "<a href="mailto:lori.schulman@ascd.org" class="">lori.schulman@ascd.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:lori.schulman@ascd.org" class="">lori.schulman@ascd.org</a>>, "Rosette, Kristina" <<a href="mailto:krosette@cov.com" class="">krosette@cov.com</a>>, Benedetta Rossi <<a href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org" class="">benedetta.rossi@icann.org</a>>, Carlos Reyes <<a href="mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org" class="">carlos.reyes@icann.org</a>>, Stefania Milan <<a href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu" class="">Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">Hi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Over morning coffee a random out of the box idea has floated through my head. I would have sent this to the utterly under-utilized <a href="mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org" class="">gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org</a> list but I’m not sure who is subscribed there at this point; for some strange reason, only the sysadmin can see the subscriber list. I see in my saved messages that Glen sent a message 28 February listing subscribers at that time and it seems to be populated more by last year’s Councilors than chairs and VCs. So I’m redeploying the DC planning Cc (and re-adding Stefi Milan, who it seems was being left off a number of recent messages, and David and Glen FTI).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So: just a thought. The FY15 budget allocation includes $33,300 for Pre-public Meeting Seminars. This is described by staff as follows:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><i class="">These types of efforts have proven to be quite useful and popular to the community in the past. One "conference" slot and room support available for an ICANN community to host a pre-Public Meeting policy conference before each ICANN Public Meeting in FY15. To be developed by ICANN staff based on previous NCUC (San Francisco and Singapore) model. To the extent demand exceeds supply, conference slots will be initially selected by lottery and rotated among community groups as appropriate.</i></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(I don’t know why NCUC’s day-long Toronto conference didn’t get a mention too, but whatever). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To my knowledge at least, nobody has applied for these funds. It would be a pity to let them go to waste, which presumably would make it harder to justify including such an allocation in future budgets. And there is certainly a lot to talk about of interest to the community. NCUC’s Singapore meeting on NETmundial preparations played to a packed house from beginning to end, and the prior ones were pretty full too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would be relatively easy (if massively time consuming) for me to organize another NCUC-led meeting, but staff’s idea here was spread the engagement. So I’m wondering: what about submitting a proposal for a NCPH-led conference in Buenos Aires? It could be, in effect, on ICANN Beyond the DNS Industry—concerns of commercial and noncommercial users in the context of new gTLDs, the changing internal composition of the community, etc. It could e.g. mix a couple panel sessions with a couple structured open dialogue sessions. Each could be jointly planned and personned, or alternatively the program could be divided and the respective groups organize sessions of particular interest to them. Lots of configurations possible, any of which could have the positive externality of enhancing communication and collaboration amongst our tribes as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is this a crazy idea I should abandon forthwith, or something we might like to think about, including with respect to the DC meeting?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>