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Hi Bill<br>
Thanks for your note on this - just wondering what other support or
assitance you need for this now? Please just let us know.<br>
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Joy <br>
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<div class="">Thanks folks for the good suggestion. It’s not
clear we'd need to do this with the CSG since a) the 4 plenary
slots look to be full, b) their forward looking agenda would be
different from ours, and c) co-designing it this would turn into
another protracted negotiation with our hydra-headed
counterpart. My suggestion would be that we do this amongst
ourselves in one of the two time slots reserved for NCSG. There
are a number of other items we may also want to pack into those
slots, e.g.</div>
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<div class="">Procedural: dialogue on improving the functioning of
NCSG</div>
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<div class="">Substantive: discussions in various places led me to
believe that people would like to talk about IANA and/or EWG and
privacy. CSG is not interested in either of these as plenary
topics (although if we do the open fourth session I propose we
could still raise some things to air views and see what they’ll
say). </div>
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<div class="">(Privacy was part of why I reach out to Rotenberg as
a possibility for one of the three additional slots, along with
Kathy K and another player TBD. If we drop it probably he
skips, whatever. Or we could maybe do an outreach thing Wed
where he’d fit. Matt is there someone from CDT that might be
interested in attending?)</div>
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<div class="">Fadi: We need the man the morning of day 2 after he
visits CSG. I think it’s important that we are well prepared to
lay out our concerns and seek concrete look me in the eye
responses, otherwise he’ll fill the void and give us a speech
like last time, when we learned that civil society is a bunch of
crazies locked in the basement (seriously). So really, unless
we do it online prior, I’d suggest that the day 2 slot entail
Fadi-prep. Which would mean packing everything else into the
day one slot, and the constituency slots.</div>
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<div class="">In any event: the participants (NCSG Councilors + 3
others from the PC, NCUC EC, NPOC EC) should have a dialogue
about how they want to use those slots.</div>
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idea - Rafik and I were just discussing the same.
Should we create some shareable doc to start the
process? Is there some more formal way of doing it
within the PC?<br class="">
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Hi Bill - thanks a lot for sharing this - just
wondering .... would it also be useful to do some kind
of forward looking exercise to help planning? For
example, mapping those new or emerging issues likely
to impact on policy work in the 2015 as well as those
spaces outside ICANN where SGs are planning to engage
in 2015.<br class="">
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discussions about January. Any thoughts on any of
the below?</div>
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Bill’s thanks to Rob for
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think Bill’s suggestions re
possible topics for the
Monday AM sessions make
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73, 125);" class="">Beyond
accountability, one topic
IPC would like to see
addressed in the “plenary”
(perhaps on Tuesday
afternoon) would be New
gTLDs, which should include
preparation for the AOC
review as well as the other
initiatives staff is
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think EWG is a great topic
for this meeting. GNSO
review certainly could be
contentious but maybe good
to start having that
discussion here, as I see
was discussed in dialogue
between Bill and Tony
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<div class="">Ok, so if I’m
remembering the conversation
correctly, the items suggested so
far by more than one SG would be</div>
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<div class="">2. GNSO review including
SG/C issues</div>
<div class="">3. In-house coordination
as needed in light of past
differences on board, GNSO VC, etc.
(if we exhaust this topic quickly or
hit a wall the remaining time could
be spent on larger intra-GNSO
dynamics, e.g. role of the Council
in relation to the GNSO community,
contracted/noncontracted, whatever)</div>
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one SG include</div>
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<div class="">*New gTLDs and AOC (CSG)</div>
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to build in a little
flexibility to account for
the possibility
(likelihood?) that the House
will want to “revisit” on
Tuesday one or more of the
topics first broached on
Monday. For example, we
might reach agreement in
principle on something and
ask a subgroup to draft a
statement for discussion the
next day. In other words,
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thoughts:</div>
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<div class="">*As the SGs have
separate meetings in slots E and H,
we’ll have chances to talk about
items of less interest to the other
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<div class="">*To leave time for
Steve’s flexibility and accommodate
any unfinished conversational
threads or unaddressed items, why
not leave the fourth slot
unprogrammed, like a big AOB? It’s
only 90 minutes, and an open
discussion opportunity would allow
for reflections on the meeting and
ensure nobody goes away feeling like
they didn’t get to raise something
they care about. Would be an
integrative way to end the two days.</div>
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<div class="">*Per previous I tend to
think it better to lead off with
items where there’s broad agreement
and ease into topics that might be
more difficult after people have
been together a bit, which might
suggest proceeding 1, 2, 3 above
=> 4 open/loose ends discussion.</div>
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<div class="">Other bits:</div>
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<div class="">*Additional bodies: I
believe we have agreed 3 per SG.
Personally, I would not designate
them as ‘observers’, if we are going
to invite someone they shouldn’t be
somehow marked as different and
should be able to participate fully
like anyone else.</div>
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<div class="">*Lunch speakers: Per
previous my suggestion would be to
let people chat on the first day,
and would strongly encourage people
to sit intermingled rather than
self-segregated into NCSG and CSG
tables. On the second day, we could
do a) Larry; b) a less
familiar-to-all beltway denizen,
e.g. a Congressional or think tank
poobah; or c) Fadi, who will have
just met separately with the two SGs
and might helpfully address us on an
integrative basis thereafter. I
guess one also could argue it’d be
sort of bad form to not invite him
to address us as group, no?</div>
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<div class="">*Markus: I would suggest
that he be asked to participate in
Fadi’s Day 2 discussions with the
SGs so he can get more familiar with
our respective concerns.</div>
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<div class="">*”Day 3”: I asked
yesterday if others are planning on
doing any sort of outreach meeting
Wednesday morning on a SG or
constituency basis, if so I’d think
we should do the same and would need
to factor that into our planning
soon as it could affect travel
schedules etc.</div>
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<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Robert
Hoggarth<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tony
Holmes; Elisa Cooper;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>;
Marilyn Cade;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lori.schulman@ascd.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class="">lori.schulman@ascd.org</a>;
Kristina Rosette;
Metalitz, Steven; Rafik
Dammak; Jimson Olufuye;
Maryam Bakoshi; Brenda
Brewer; Benedetta Rossi;
Stefania Milan; William
Drake<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: For Review and Feedback --
Draft NCPH Meeting Agenda<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""></o:p></div>
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
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Rob for moving us along. Some
initial reactions:<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">The
overall schedule maps well
with what we discussed.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Re:
the Day 1 morning NCPH
sessions, perhaps one option
would be to lead with one on
broader changes/conditions in
the ICANN environment on which
non-contracted would have
broadly similar concerns, e.g.
expansion/diversification of
contracted parties and
possible GNSO implications;
and then do the second one on
our intra-house dynamics and
cooperation, e.g. conduct of
elections etc. In other
words, lead off with shared
stuff to get everyone
acclimated and then ease into
items on which we’ve struggled
a bit?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Re:
the Day 2 afternoon NCPH
sessions, it sounded on the
call like we all agreed on
Accountability as a
substantive discussion topic.
If I understood Steve
correctly CSG would be less
interested in talking about
IANA stewardship in this
context. If so, perhaps EWG?
Or would we want to discuss
the GNSO Review and structural
issues in more detail?<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">I
suppose the four NCPH sessions
could be ordered a number of
ways. We also could for ex
hold the intra-house
discussion for one of the Day
2 slots, after folks have been
spending time together and are
warmed up etc…<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Re:
lunches, on the first day,
maybe we’d want more casual
conversation opportunities? A
speaker on the second day
might be good, a beltway
luminary of some sort? <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Steve
suggested expanding the head
count a little so a few local
community members could join.
As discussed, alternative
considerations would be
keeping the group size
reasonably conversational and
not being asymmetric. Could
we compromise on adding two
heads per house?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">I had
a drink with Markus the other
night and he didn’t know about
the meeting, but he checked
his schedule and is available.
I agree it’d be good to have
him there so folks who aren’t
could get acquainted. <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Also,
going forward, two process
requests:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">*Please
include my NCUC EC colleague
Stefania Milan on the Cc, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class="">Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu</a>.
She is copied here.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">*Please
send to me at only one
address, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>,
I don’t need copies of every
message in both my accounts.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">thanks
much<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Bill<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:
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class="">
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">On
Nov 15, 2014, at 6:29 AM,
Robert Hoggarth <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:robert.hoggarth@icann.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class="">robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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class=""> </o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class="">Hi
Everyone,<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Attached
please find a draft
"strawman" agenda
structure (Version
"v1") for the
January NCPH
meeting. Per our
discussion this
week, please share
and discuss it with
your individual
communities as you
see fit. If our
previous 2013 effort
is a good guide,
this is likely to be
the first of several
agenda drafts before
we reach a final
version.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Please
provide as many
comments/reactions/edit
suggestions/etc. as
possible via email
over the course of
the next week. <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Benedetta
will be circulating
a Doodle poll to
select the date for
the next planning
call, and I hope we
can make some
on-line progress
prior to that next
meeting.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Please note
that I am now
including Maryam
Bakoshi and Brenda
Brewer on the cc
list so that they
can be ready to
assist you in
prepping your
individual meeting
agendas during the
course of the events
that week.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Believe it
or not, with one
major exception, our
planning timetable
is still pretty
consistent with the
timing of the 2013
meeting planning
effort. The one area
where we REALLY need
your help is to
provide as many
traveler/delegate
names as soon as
possible so that we
can make sure that
all intended
travelers/delegates
have reasonable
travel schedules and
any visas they may
need to get into the
U.S. for the
meeting. Please
provide that info to
me as soon as
possible so that we
can maximize the use
of our support
resources for the
meeting.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;"
class="">Thank you
all for your help
and support of this
planning effort!<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class=""> </span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class="">Best,<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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class=""><span
style="font-size:
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New Roman', serif;"
class=""><span
style="font-size:
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sans-serif;"
class="">Rob <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><Agenda
- NCPH InterSessional (v1-
14Nov2014).docx><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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