<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks folks for the good suggestion. It’s not clear we'd need to do this with the CSG since a) the 4 plenary slots look to be full, b) their forward looking agenda would be different from ours, and c) co-designing it this would turn into another protracted negotiation with our hydra-headed counterpart. My suggestion would be that we do this amongst ourselves in one of the two time slots reserved for NCSG. There are a number of other items we may also want to pack into those slots, e.g.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Procedural: dialogue on improving the functioning of NCSG</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Substantive: discussions in various places led me to believe that people would like to talk about IANA and/or EWG and privacy. CSG is not interested in either of these as plenary topics (although if we do the open fourth session I propose we could still raise some things to air views and see what they’ll say). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(Privacy was part of why I reach out to Rotenberg as a possibility for one of the three additional slots, along with Kathy K and another player TBD. If we drop it probably he skips, whatever. Or we could maybe do an outreach thing Wed where he’d fit. Matt is there someone from CDT that might be interested in attending?)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fadi: We need the man the morning of day 2 after he visits CSG. I think it’s important that we are well prepared to lay out our concerns and seek concrete look me in the eye responses, otherwise he’ll fill the void and give us a speech like last time, when we learned that civil society is a bunch of crazies locked in the basement (seriously). So really, unless we do it online prior, I’d suggest that the day 2 slot entail Fadi-prep. Which would mean packing everything else into the day one slot, and the constituency slots.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In any event: the participants (NCSG Councilors + 3 others from the PC, NCUC EC, NPOC EC) should have a dialogue about how they want to use those slots.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill<br class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" class="">mshears@cdt.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Excellent idea - Rafik and I were just discussing the same. Should
we create some shareable doc to start the process? Is there some
more formal way of doing it within the PC?<br class="">
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Matthew<br class="">
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Hi Bill - thanks a lot for sharing this - just wondering ....
would it also be useful to do some kind of forward looking
exercise to help planning? For example, mapping those new or
emerging issues likely to impact on policy work in the 2015 as
well as those spaces outside ICANN where SGs are planning to
engage in 2015.<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/11/2014 10:02 p.m., William
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<div class="">Just to keep folks in the loop on discussions
about January. Any thoughts on any of the below?</div>
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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re:
For Review and Feedback -- Draft NCPH Meeting Agenda</b><br class="">
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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">William Drake
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br class="">
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2014 at 9:55:39 AM GMT+1<br class="">
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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Robert Hoggarth
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Tony Holmes <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com" class="">tonyarholmes@btinternet.com</a>>,
Elisa Cooper <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com" class="">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>>,
Marilyn Cade <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com" class="">marilynscade@hotmail.com</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lori.schulman@ascd.org" class="">lori.schulman@ascd.org</a>"
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Kristina Rosette <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:krosette@cov.com" class="">krosette@cov.com</a>>,
Rafik Dammak <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>,
Jimson Olufuye <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jolufuye@kontemporary.net" class="">jolufuye@kontemporary.net</a>>,
Maryam Bakoshi <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" class="">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>,
Brenda Brewer <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org" class="">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>>,
Benedetta Rossi <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org" class="">benedetta.rossi@icann.org</a>>,
Stefania Milan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu" class="">Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu</a>>,
William Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br class="">
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Steven" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com" class="">met@msk.com</a>><br class="">
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Metalitz, Steven <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com" class="">met@msk.com</a>>
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to Rob for this draft. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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suggestions re possible topics for the
Monday AM sessions make sense. Would be
interested in others’ views.</span></div>
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Yes, please<br class="">
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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125);" class="">Beyond accountability,
one topic IPC would like to see
addressed in the “plenary” (perhaps on
Tuesday afternoon) would be New gTLDs,
which should include preparation for the
AOC review as well as the other
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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125);" class="">I don’t think EWG is a
great topic for this meeting. GNSO
review certainly could be contentious
but maybe good to start having that
discussion here, as I see was discussed
in dialogue between Bill and Tony
earlier today. </span></div>
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<div class="">Ok, so if I’m remembering the
conversation correctly, the items suggested so
far by more than one SG would be</div>
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<div class="">1. Accountability </div>
<div class="">2. GNSO review including SG/C issues</div>
<div class="">3. In-house coordination as needed
in light of past differences on board, GNSO VC,
etc. (if we exhaust this topic quickly or hit a
wall the remaining time could be spent on larger
intra-GNSO dynamics, e.g. role of the Council in
relation to the GNSO community,
contracted/noncontracted, whatever)</div>
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include</div>
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<div class="">*IANA or EWG (NCSG)</div>
<div class="">*New gTLDs and AOC (CSG)</div>
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">We need to build in a
little flexibility to account for the
possibility (likelihood?) that the House
will want to “revisit” on Tuesday one or
more of the topics first broached on
Monday. For example, we might reach
agreement in principle on something and
ask a subgroup to draft a statement for
discussion the next day. In other
words, best to frontload the plenary
topics a bit so there is some extra time
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<div class="">3 morning coffee thoughts:</div>
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<div class="">*As the SGs have separate meetings
in slots E and H, we’ll have chances to talk
about items of less interest to the other SG.</div>
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<div class="">*To leave time for Steve’s
flexibility and accommodate any unfinished
conversational threads or unaddressed items, why
not leave the fourth slot unprogrammed, like a
big AOB? It’s only 90 minutes, and an open
discussion opportunity would allow for
reflections on the meeting and ensure nobody
goes away feeling like they didn’t get to raise
something they care about. Would be an
integrative way to end the two days.</div>
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<div class="">*Per previous I tend to think it
better to lead off with items where there’s
broad agreement and ease into topics that might
be more difficult after people have been
together a bit, which might suggest proceeding
1, 2, 3 above => 4 open/loose ends
discussion.</div>
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<div class="">Other bits:</div>
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<div class="">*Additional bodies: I believe we
have agreed 3 per SG. Personally, I would not
designate them as ‘observers’, if we are going
to invite someone they shouldn’t be somehow
marked as different and should be able to
participate fully like anyone else.</div>
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<div class="">*Lunch speakers: Per previous my
suggestion would be to let people chat on the
first day, and would strongly encourage people
to sit intermingled rather than self-segregated
into NCSG and CSG tables. On the second day, we
could do a) Larry; b) a less familiar-to-all
beltway denizen, e.g. a Congressional or think
tank poobah; or c) Fadi, who will have just met
separately with the two SGs and might helpfully
address us on an integrative basis thereafter.
I guess one also could argue it’d be sort of
bad form to not invite him to address us as
group, no?</div>
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<div class="">*Markus: I would suggest that he be
asked to participate in Fadi’s Day 2 discussions
with the SGs so he can get more familiar with
our respective concerns.</div>
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<div class="">*”Day 3”: I asked yesterday if
others are planning on doing any sort of
outreach meeting Wednesday morning on a SG or
constituency basis, if so I’d think we should do
the same and would need to factor that into our
planning soon as it could affect travel
schedules etc.</div>
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<div class="">Thanks</div>
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<div class="">Bill</div>
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Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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Drake [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday,
November 15, 2014 9:35 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Robert
Hoggarth<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tony
Holmes; Elisa Cooper;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>;
Marilyn Cade;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lori.schulman@ascd.org" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">lori.schulman@ascd.org</a>;
Kristina Rosette; Metalitz, Steven;
Rafik Dammak; Jimson Olufuye; Maryam
Bakoshi; Brenda Brewer; Benedetta
Rossi; Stefania Milan; William Drake<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
For Review and Feedback -- Draft NCPH
Meeting Agenda<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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moving us along. Some initial reactions:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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schedule maps well with what we discussed.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">Re: the Day 1
morning NCPH sessions, perhaps one option
would be to lead with one on broader
changes/conditions in the ICANN
environment on which non-contracted would
have broadly similar concerns, e.g.
expansion/diversification of contracted
parties and possible GNSO implications;
and then do the second one on our
intra-house dynamics and cooperation, e.g.
conduct of elections etc. In other words,
lead off with shared stuff to get everyone
acclimated and then ease into items on
which we’ve struggled a bit?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">Re: the Day 2
afternoon NCPH sessions, it sounded on the
call like we all agreed on Accountability
as a substantive discussion topic. If I
understood Steve correctly CSG would be
less interested in talking about IANA
stewardship in this context. If so,
perhaps EWG? Or would we want to discuss
the GNSO Review and structural issues in
more detail?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">I suppose the
four NCPH sessions could be ordered a
number of ways. We also could for ex hold
the intra-house discussion for one of the
Day 2 slots, after folks have been
spending time together and are warmed up
etc…<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">Re: lunches, on
the first day, maybe we’d want more casual
conversation opportunities? A speaker on
the second day might be good, a beltway
luminary of some sort? <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">Steve suggested
expanding the head count a little so a few
local community members could join. As
discussed, alternative considerations
would be keeping the group size reasonably
conversational and not being asymmetric.
Could we compromise on adding two heads
per house?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class="">I had a drink
with Markus the other night and he didn’t
know about the meeting, but he checked his
schedule and is available. I agree it’d
be good to have him there so folks who
aren’t could get acquainted. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Also, going
forward, two process requests:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">*Please include
my NCUC EC colleague Stefania Milan on
the Cc, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu</a>.
She is copied here.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">*Please send to
me at only one address, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>,
I don’t need copies of every message in
both my accounts.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">thanks much<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Bill<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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New Roman', serif;" class="">On Nov
15, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Robert Hoggarth
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robert.hoggarth@icann.org" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Hi
Everyone,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Attached
please find a draft "strawman"
agenda structure (Version "v1")
for the January NCPH meeting.
Per our discussion this week,
please share and discuss it
with your individual communities
as you see fit. If our previous
2013 effort is a good guide,
this is likely to be the first
of several agenda drafts before
we reach a final version.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Please
provide as many
comments/reactions/edit
suggestions/etc. as possible via
email over the course of the
next week. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Benedetta
will be circulating a Doodle
poll to select the date for the
next planning call, and I hope
we can make some on-line
progress prior to that next
meeting.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Please
note that I am now including
Maryam Bakoshi and Brenda Brewer
on the cc list so that they can
be ready to assist you in
prepping your individual meeting
agendas during the course of the
events that week.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Believe it
or not, with one major
exception, our planning
timetable is still pretty
consistent with the timing of
the 2013 meeting planning
effort. The one area where we
REALLY need your help is to
provide as many
traveler/delegate names as soon
as possible so that we can make
sure that all intended
travelers/delegates have
reasonable travel schedules and
any visas they may need to get
into the U.S. for the meeting.
Please provide that info to me
as soon as possible so that we
can maximize the use of our
support resources for the
meeting.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Thank you
all for your help and support of
this planning effort!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: 'Times New Roman',
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Rob <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;" class=""><Agenda
- NCPH InterSessional (v1-
14Nov2014).docx><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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