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<p>Bill, I was indeed surprised to see that you have sent it to the discuss list. it wasn't you!</p>
<p>anyway, sure Niels will understand. will text him now to apologize, since it all started with my proposal and meeting last weekend in London. anyway, the guy is a Dutch, so laid back by definition. a beer will do :-)</p>
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<p>I was also go for a ceiling of 2,000, especially if he doesn't stay the whole time. as much as i consider him a friend, i dont quite like that he is (indirectly) charging us for something that his employer should pay (the way back Brazil-Netherlands). That
could also be an option, i'd say.... going back to Brazil after ICANN, and then it would be his business to get home.
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<b>Inviato:</b> giovedì 2 ottobre 2014 07.43<br>
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<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] Sigh...let's try that again. LA Travel Support Request</font>
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<div dir="ltr">@Bill, these things happen:) Atleast it was not a personal message.
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<div> And glad that you have put to a stop the debate. I would go for option 4 since this is now the proposal.
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From: wjdrake@gmail.com<br>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 07:35:05 +0200<br>
To: ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org<br>
Subject: [NCUC-EC] Sigh...let's try that again. LA Travel Support Request<br>
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It was late, I was exhausted, oops.
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<div style=""><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>LA Travel Support Request</b><br>
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<div style=""><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">October 1, 2014 at 9:36:54 PM GMT+2<br>
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<div>We have a request for support to cover a plane trip to LA from Niels at Article 19. As you know, Niels and his colleague Gabrielle have been quite active since joining NCUC a few months back, having taken the lead on drafting a couple NCSG policy statements
including most recently the response to the Council of Europe human rights paper. There will be a number of follow-up HR discussions in LA, including in the NCUC and NCSG constituency day meetings, a GAC meeting, and (if meeting staff can accommodate with
space) a proposed cross-community meeting. As such, I’d think it’d be good for our efforts if Niels could be there, and as we discussed in Istanbul, while it’s too late to do the whole formalized application process, we could consider offering ad hoc support
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<div>Problem is, at this late date, prices are high, plus he’s looking for a funky itinerary, coming from Sao Paulo to LA and then back home to Amsterdam. He’s also proposing to leave a tad early, on the Thursday, so missing the meetings on accountability,
IANA, and the Public Forum. 1,814.30 GBP = $2,935.33 USD, a thousand more than we are offering as of the Marrakech meeting. </div>
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<div>So we have 4 options: say 1) sorry no; 2) yes ok; 3) ok but a bit less than asked, like $2,500; or 4) $2,000 as we announced. In the latter two, ask if A19 can’t pick up the difference (in addition to his hotel and other costs). We could of course ask
that the standard requirements we set out be met, e.g. participating in all activities, writing a blog about what happened at the meeting of relevance to NCUC, etc.</div>
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<div>It’s worth noting that in the past we didn’t set a $2,000 limit, and have covered people serving on the NCSG EC or in other capacities in the $3,000 range. So it while it’s a bit high, it wouldn’t be unprecedented.</div>
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<div>What do people think? In any event we should give him an answer soon, the meeting’s starting in ten days.</div>
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