<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi<div><br></div><div>As my request for input on the CD agenda fell flat here I tried a little ad hoc coordination, below the result FYI.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>BD<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Re: Constituency Day</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">June 4, 2014 at 2:59:58 PM GMT+2<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>, Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>, Milton Mueller <<a href="mailto:Mueller@syr.edu">Mueller@syr.edu</a>>, Brenden Kuerbis <<a href="mailto:bkuerbis@internetgovernance.org">bkuerbis@internetgovernance.org</a>>, Maria Farrell <<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>>, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>>, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>><br></span></div><br><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi<div><br></div><div>Not entirely surprisingly, my request for input yielded more of a variable geometry of disagreement than a clear consensus. Nevertheless, I really need to get something initial posted now that the meeting website’s gone live, a pointer to a blank page isn’t too helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Here’s my take-away:</div><div><br></div><div>1. CD needs to be multi-vocal and multi-purpose, so anyone wanting a singular orientation is inevitably going to be less engaged by some parts of the program than others. Yes we need to have serious, drill-down, action-oriented discussions about how to respond to current ICANN policies and proposals. But we also need to have bits of the program that are more open and inviting to newbies and people who not deep into the weeds on IANA or whatever, stuff that will draw them into further engagement rather than make them feel like they’re uncluefully eavesdropping on old hands and can’t really engage (trust me, I’ve heard this repeatedly, we always get 4-5 Fellows who come over after my 8:15 talk for a look…and we might have other new folks subsequent to the Friday outreach meeting).</div><div><br></div><div>2. We all think a chunk of time has to be devoted to the emerging accountability discussions and the “4 tracks” including IANA updates. I just wouldn’t want to focus only on IANA for an hour. I’m thinking we talk among ourselves rather than having invited potentates. We had Larry and Fiona last time, I wouldn’t want to ask them twice in a row. I invited Heather yet again and heard back from her that the GAC feels it already consults with civil society because it meets the ALAC. Happy to report Olivier corrected her there, but she’s not leaving the GAC meeting to come over. I could ask Camino and Linda from the EC if people think that’d be value adding, but if they agreed we’d end up talking mostly about the EC’s views, about which they’d be somewhat guarded.</div><div><br></div><div>3. It occurs to me that coming on the heels of the day long High Level, we ought to have a chunk of time doing a meta-assessment of where governments appear to be on various issues substantive and procedural—from accountability & IANA to law enforcement, .vin, early engagement and beyond. I’ve had the GAC VC’s Thomas and Peter come over before and could again, they may well be willing, if you wish to have some internal ethnographic deconstruction. Or we could just share our own views. Preferences?</div><div><br></div><div>4. I don’t detect consensus on devoting a big chunk of time at this meeting to training/WG facilitation-oriented break outs on Freedom of Expression, Privacy, Fair Use and Due Process. Maybe it’d be better to try that at a future meeting where there’s not so much else going on, as those issues and the best way to do Inreach and engage people at the WG level are items that will always be important. I would suggest instead that we split the difference and spend a bit of time on Privacy since we’ll have the NCSG thing the next day and want people to be prepped on how to play it strategically, and can fold into this a bit of discussion on WG engagement—in other words, do a bit of what Kathy suggests now and evolve a concept for a broader treatment perhaps in LA.</div><div><br></div><div>5. I don’t detect consensus on devoting a big chunk of time to selected outputs of the strategy panels, even though some of these may lead to actions and they go to the interface between ICANN and the broader IG environment. So maybe we can do a bit framed in terms of the latter for the benefit of those of us who don’t think they’re irrelevant—e.g. me, Marilia, Anriette, Adam—at least mention a few key panel outcomes in that context.</div><div><br></div><div>6. Finally, if this time we decide to break with the tradition of loading up on outside visitors and try to have more intensive own discussions, I suggest maybe designating some members who can help to tee up particular conversations. This would have the positive externality of me being able to shut my yap and listen to others lead off.</div><div><br></div><div>So with all that said, and with a plea to take seriously point 1. above, how’s this look:</div><div><br></div><div><b>NCUC Constituency Day @ ICANN 50, London, Tuesday 24 June 2014</b><br><br><i>Draft Agenda as of 04.06.2014</i><br><br><b>I. Overview, 9:00 – 9:10</b><br><br></div><div>1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Participant introductions<br>2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Adoption of agenda<br> <br><b>II. Organizational Matters, 9:10 – 9:30</b><br><br>1. Outreach: Friday meeting with non-ICANN civil society & future efforts<br>2. Budgetary: allocations, IGF, future policy conferences, CROPP, etc.<br>3. Non-contracted House: Board election, intersessional meeting<br>4. Staff: administrative support initiative<br><br><b>III. Reflections on the High Level Meeting and the Evolving Views/Roles of Governments, 9:30 - 10:00</b><br><br>Discussion leads: Robin Gross, Maria Farrell<br><br><b>IV. Accountability, IANA, and the Four Tracks of Transition, 10:00-10:45</b><br><br>Discussion leads: Avri Doria, Milton Mueller, Niels ten Oever and/or Gabrielle Guillemin<br><br><b>Coffee Break, 10:45-11:00</b><br><br><b>V. Privacy (Including Working Group Engagement), 11:00-11:40</b><br><br>Discussion leads: Kathy Kleiman, Stephanie Perrin, David Cake<br><br><b>VI. ICANN in the Larger Internet Governance Ecosystem, 11:40-12:20</b><br><br>Discussion leads: Anriette Esterhuysen, Marília Maciel, Adam Peake<br><br><b>VII. AOB and Closing, 12:20-12:30</b><br><br><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>