<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi<div><br></div><div>Thanks fik. All good questions to which there are no answers yet, we'll see how staff evolves and comes back to us.</div><div><br></div><div>BD</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hi Bill,<div><br></div><div>the idea to have a person for admin stuff is good and as mentioned it works at OECD CSISAC and ensure stability (there is slight difference is that he is doing liaison work and attend meetings etc) while the volunteers focus on policy matter, outreach etc.</div>
<div>I am surprised by Rob argument because ICANN already use consultants for support(ken bour, berry cobb etc) , so we can hire our "consultant" and then he/she has the same scheme with ICANN .</div><div>is the support of secretariat include support to ICANN meetings like the ALAC staff?</div>
<div>I am wondering how 1 person will handle 3 parties and avoiding being overloaded (tasks can grow quickly since we can outsource to him/her :))</div><div>for tasks: </div><div>- support EC work</div><div>- handling logistics for meeting, calendar, membership lists</div>
<div>etc</div><div>for the printed material: yes for the separation between content and formatting , we can get people involved for the former than latter</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">
<div>Rafik </div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/8 William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div><div>Further to my conversation with Rob: staff is contemplating a pilot program to help constituencies and SGs manage their operations by performing some administrative functions. We talked about this a little at the NCPH meeting in LA in January. Lots of constituencies, especially IPC and BC, and calling on ICANN to help them with secretariat support. What's currently being discussed is a configuration like ICANN hires a dedicated staffer to support a SG and its component parts, so for ex NCSG, NPOC, and NCUC each get say 13 hours a month of help. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Of course, I said that we'd prefer to select and manage the person ourselves; I mentioned the OECD CSISAC example. He said sorry but the people will have to be ICANN staffers on the payroll, they can't provide funds for independents, but certainly the person would have to have our approval, ongoing trust and task management to be effective.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Additional scenario: As we've been allocated funds for printing but it's unclear whether volunteer members will have the bandwidth to ensure the on time publication of professional looking issue briefs etc. per meeting, he said it's conceivable we could select a staffer with some substantive expertise (could even be a current NCSG member) who'd play the coordinating role to make sure the outputs are actually output. We'd still have to write the content, but formatting it, dealing with the publications office, etc. could be given to such a person.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Time line on this is unclear, somewhere after BA it becomes more of an issue. In the meanwhile, we are asked to consider and specify precisely what sorts of tasks we might like a staffer to perform for us. So please let's keep that item on our agendas as well and exchange ideas going forward.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And yes of course, with regard to this and the regional outreach support, there's the issue of does this make community members dependent on and subservient to staff, are we all reduced to pigs fighting for the troth etc. We can revisit this issue as we go...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
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