[NCUC-EC] Review NCUC Travel Support Applications

Mueller, Milton L milton at gatech.edu
Tue Sep 6 17:09:11 CEST 2016


Are you and Farzy agreeing that we should provide $1000 support for Bonface and then actively mentor and engage him in Hyderabad? I could reluctantly go with that, but will either of you two be there? My impression is that neither of you will be.
--MM

From: João Carlos Rebello Caribé [mailto:caribe at entropia.blog.br]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:03 AM
To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
Cc: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>; Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>; Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Review NCUC Travel Support Applications

I understand you Farzy, go ahead, really do it, it's a good idea to offer a guidance, also count me in to help on this case.




Em 06/09/2016, às 11:56, farzaneh badii escreveu:


Joao,

I am really in favor of capacity building , I know where you are coming from, and we should plan that but then again the travel policy does not make Bonface or Benjamin or Hago eligible. Look below, is there a working group they are involved with? are they commenting on public comments we post to the list?
1.   Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC's work, for example constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or cross-community working groups;
2.   Need to be at a given meeting because the above mentioned work will be advanced there;
We could ask them to become active and we seriously consider their next application. I offer to give them guidance to make it easier for them to become active.

Best



On 6 September 2016 at 16:49, João Carlos Rebello Caribé <caribe at entropia.blog.br<mailto:caribe at entropia.blog.br>> wrote:
Farzy,

Define active?

It's a subjective value, active means participate on the discussions, on the meetings, projects and tasks, also someone would be active out in their local "bubble", active means be a multiplicator, a personal hub, a decision maker, a opinion maker. It's not easy to fair evaluate this.

However we can think about what the supporter can add to NCUC community, the right question is: Why you deserve to be supported by NCUC to travel to meeting, which return you will bring ?

I'm in a delicate position since Bonface and Benjamin are two members I brought to Fellow and to NCUC, as Renata too, so I observing Benjamin away from IG issues, in other hand Bonface is very active, even his limited budget.

My final suggestion is to support Michael and Bonface, I'm sure he will bring return to NCUC.

[]s
Joao Carlos Caribé

Em 06/09/2016, às 11:34, farzaneh badii escreveu:


Thanks Milton. Joao, Grace, let us know ASAP, we need to approve travel support. Getting visa is not easy.

On 6 September 2016 at 16:30, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
Yes

From: farzaneh badii [mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>]
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Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Review NCUC Travel Support Applications



Does everyone agree that we only support Michael for this round and tell the other applicants to become active and apply next time?

On 6 Sep 2016 1:56 a.m., "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I see a Michael as strong case because his involvement in workstream and clear interest on that (e.g. DIDP), also being the representative of an organisational member like Center for Law and Democracy which would make sense to engage more.

Best,

Rafik

2016-09-06 7:12 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:

Hi Milton

We have to be quick on this because of visas etc.  Who do you suggest we take on?

Best

Farzaneh

On 6 Sep 2016 12:02 a.m., "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
I think we are spending money just for the sake of spending money.
$4000 is a limit, not a requirement. If we do not think we are getting something valuable from spending it, then let's not spend it.

I am not convinced that we need to support all three of these people


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Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Review NCUC Travel Support Applications

Agree, good suggestion.

They are requesting:

Benjamin - U$ 1500 - 34% of total
Bonface - U$ 1000 - 23% of total
Michael - U$ 1920 - 43% of total

Total is U$ 4420

I suggest to rate proportional of the U$ 420,00 as is:

Benjamin - U$ 1500 - 150 = U$ 1350
Bonface - U$ 1000 - 90 = U$ 910
Michael - U$ 1920 - 180 = U$ 1740

Total is U$ 4000

[]s
Joao





Em 05/09/2016, às 08:41, Rafik Dammak escreveu:

Hi everyone,

maybe as workable suggestion, we can review if we can provide partial funding to Michael, Benjamin and Bonface. we can discuss how much we allocate.

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João Carlos R. Caribé
Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
NETmundial Initiative Counselor
ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member

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Skype joaocaribe
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Farzaneh

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Transdisciplinary Consultant - Wazushi
NETmundial Initiative Counselor
ICANN NCUC Executive Committee member

http://about.me/caribe

Skype joaocaribe
+55(021) 9 8761 1967

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