<div dir="ltr">Thank you, Kathy, for your question; here is an additional <b>personal</b> assessment and opinion on the issue,  in addition to Tomslin's summary in the email I forwarded.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This email is a follow-up email to the document I forwarded earlier.<br>During the ICANN80 Kigali meeting, the chairs of SOACs met with the ICANN Interim CEO to discuss the way the ICANN community meets and works tagged "How We Meet" and "How We Work," especially in the face of the global economic crisis realities.<br><br>The meeting produced multiple suggestions and recommendations, and ICANN staff captured them in the shared document attached (by the way, I was not in the meeting).<br><br>The discussion summary was about how we can streamline or adjust our meeting logistics to fit sustainably to today's harsh economic situation without undermining ICANN's mission and effectiveness to its remit. The discussion centered on the need to adjust the frequency of ICANN's public meetings or the number of sessions, the need to make Hybrid meetings more effective, etc. <br><br>The document has shared multiple options that could be considered. However, some of my concerns are:</div><div><br></div><div>1. NCUC can not afford to reduce the number of representatives at ICANN meetings because we are underrepresented in these meetings already;</div><div>2.  Virtual meetings are not effective for our community, knowing that many are from regions struggling with Internet connections. Hence, it will reduce the participation of our members. - we saw this during the pandemic.</div><div>3. Finally, I am also concerned about the approach that the community will use to arrive at the option to be implemented; I hope the process of deciding would be a bottom-up approach.</div><div><br>My call to action for members is that everyone should share their opinions on this matter and help shape the final outcome.<br><br><br>Thank you,<br>Benjamin <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:18 PM Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:Kathy@kathykleiman.com">Kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Benjamin,</p>
    <p>Tx you for sharing this posting with NCUC. Can we ask what
      changes below are of most concern (or least concern) to you as
      someone who has been closely involved in planning our NCUC
      meetings (thank you!) and cares deeply about NCUC participation?</p>
    <p><i>I have the same question for all members of the NCUC Executive
        Committee (last year and newly elected).  </i>Could you be our
      guides through the discussion of these rather significant
      changes?  What will most impact NCUC information, research,
      comment writing, and participation? <br>
    </p>
    <p>Best and tx,</p>
    <p>Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 7/11/2024 4:27 AM, Benjamin
      Akinmoyeje wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear NCUC members,
        <div>Good day, I hope you are well. I like to bring this
          important discussion to your attention.</div>
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        <div>This is a community discussion about  How We Meet and How
          We Work . </div>
        <div>I encourage you to read the email trail below and the
          attached documents and share your recommendations or ideas on
          the attached Google Doc.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Kindly contribute your voice to this future shaping
          discussion.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Kind regards,</div>
        <div>Benjamin </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded
              message ---------<br>
              From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Tomslin
                Samme-Nlar</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
              Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 12:58 AM<br>
              Subject: Fwd: [gnso-chairs] Initiating the Community
              Dialogue on "How We Meet": Initial Ideas & Meeting
              Request<br>
              To: <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>><br>
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              <div>Hi team,</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>In our SOAC leadership meeting with Sally in Kigali,
                she mentioned 2 areas where the community needs to have
                a dialogue on; (1) "How We Meet" and (2) "How We Work".
                Below and attached is a discussion paper from ICANN's
                Policy & Advice Development staff team to facilitate
                the discussion on dialogue #1 "How We Meet. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Things will move fast since we have to send our
                feedback (if any) to <a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>
                by 24 July 2024. As a result, I have added this topic as
                an agenda item to our monthly policy meeting which is on
                Monday 15 July at 11:30 UTC (See Andrea's email/reminder
                for joining details and full agenda). Come with some
                ideas please. I have also created this <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rQ3_P-xlb48qcy4iY4prOis4Y4O1O2a_geBfrYMuQ4Y/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">Google Doc</a>
                to solicit feedback from everyone, even if you can't
                make the meeting.<br>
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              <div><br>
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              <div>In the paper, you will notice a number of suggestions
                such as:</div>
              <div>
                <ol>
                  <li>Evaluate the full cycle of in-person and hybrid
                    community meetings, including standalone SOAC
                    Leadership and Strategic Planning meetings, targeted
                    group meetings (such as the Contracted Parties
                    Summit, the At Large Summit, and the High-Level
                    Governmental Meeting) and similar, cost-intensive,
                    travel-dependent Meetings</li>
                  <li>Review the planning by ICANN Org and the community
                    for all in-person/hybrid meetings (including ICANN
                    Public Meetings) by adopting an annualized, regular
                    approach of planning for a full meeting cycle
                    (either by a calendar year or a fiscal year)</li>
                  <li>Review of the current allocation of Funded
                    Travelers to each ICANN Public Meeting</li>
                  <li>Reduce the number of sessions at ICANN Public
                    Meetings, which could result in a reduction in the
                    cost of travel (i.e., accommodation) and
                    venue-related costs (e.g., room and equipment
                    rentals, contractors)</li>
                  <li>Reduce or eliminate informational and training
                    sessions at ICANN Public Meetings</li>
                  <li>Reduce or eliminate ICANN-hosted or
                    ICANN-sponsored social and outreach events at, or
                    associated with, an ICANN Public Meeting</li>
                  <li>Move at least one (1) upcoming ICANN Public
                    Meeting to a Virtual Meeting</li>
                  <li>Review the current state of ICANN Public Meetings,
                    with a view toward updating the ten-year-old ICANN
                    Meetings Strategy (dating from 2014) to match
                    current and expected future needs and budget
                    constraints</li>
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                                        <div>Talk to you all on Monday.</div>
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                                        <div>Warmly,<br>
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                                        Tomslin
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mary Wong
                              via soac-chairs <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>>
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 7, 2024 11:58 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:team-leaders@icann.org" target="_blank">team-leaders@icann.org</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [soac-chairs]
                              Initiating the Community Dialogue on "How
                              We Meet": Initial Ideas & Meeting
                              Request</p>
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                                <p><b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black;background:rgb(255,255,153)">CAUTION</span></b><span style="color:black;background:rgb(255,255,153)">: This email originated from
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear SOAC leaders,</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">An action item from your
                            informal meeting with Sally in Kigali was
                            for the Policy team to facilitate a dialogue
                            with you about “How We Meet”, viz., how our
                            in-person and hybrid meetings can be
                            optimized to ensure that resources
                            (including financial, staff and community
                            time) continue to be allocated appropriately
                            to ensure the community can do its work
                            effectively and efficiently, while staying
                            within budgetary constraints. As a starting
                            point for this dialogue, we have drafted the
                            attached discussion paper with some initial
                            ideas for your community’s consideration and
                            to invite your suggestions for further
                            discussion.
                          </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">To capitalize on the
                            momentum of recent conversations and to
                            facilitate a constructive and substantive
                            dialogue, we’d like to suggest the following
                            cadence of meetings, structured around a few
                            foundational questions:
                          </p>
                          <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
                            <li style="margin-left:2.25pt">Late/end-July:
                              first call with SOAC Chairs and
                              Vice-Chairs to share feedback on agreed
                              strategic questions
                            </li>
                            <li style="margin-left:2.25pt">Mid/late
                              August (following collation of ideas and
                              input): second call to discuss and agree
                              on concrete ideas for implementation or
                              further exploration</li>
                            <li style="margin-left:2.25pt">End-August/early
                              September (if agreed is needed): third
                              call to review agreed way forward,
                              including any next steps for additional
                              (longer term) ideas to be discussed
                              further  </li>
                          </ul>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">The sort of strategic,
                            foundational questions we were thinking
                            might be helpful for focusing the dialogue
                            include:</p>
                          <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
                            <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
                              <li style="margin-left:2.25pt">If you or
                                your group could change one thing about
                                how we meet that will facilitate
                                efficiency in how we deliver ICANN’s
                                mission while remaining sustainable into
                                the future, what would that be? </li>
                              <li style="margin-left:2.25pt">What other
                                key changes do we need to make to
                                continue to ensure we can meet these
                                goals?</li>
                            </ul>
                          </ul>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your
                            support and willingness to collaborate with
                            us in seeking to improve and optimize how we
                            meet. Assuming you are comfortable with the
                            proposed approach, I’ll make sure to come
                            back to you with some suggested dates for
                            the calls. Please let me know if your group
                            have any questions or would like any
                            additional information that can assist with
                            your internal discussions about this topic.
                            Thank you!</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers</p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Mary </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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