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<p>Hi Farzi,</p>
<p>The problem happens when someone else registers what you feel is
your community's name, your region's name, or you people's name.
From everything I've seen, it's far easier to apply upfront than
to fight for years after someone else does (this fight is also
tremendously expensive). <br>
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<p>But that's not my decision to make - it's the decision of the
communities. If they don't have the information, they don't have
any options. At the end of the day, when all the i's are dotted
and the t's are crossed, the future rounds of new gTLDs are
supposed to provide financial and application assistance to those
communities who need and want it. <br>
</p>
I don't think it's a big lift for us to encourage ICANN to share
information about new gTLDs with communities around the world, and
support members who want to help get the word out to their
communities.<br>
<p>Hope all is well,</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
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<p>On 2/3/2022 10:59 AM, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi all,</div>
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<div dir="auto">I am a bit puzzled. New gTLDs have failed even in
the first round to meaningfully compete and participate in the
market. Community new gtld applications have been marred with
objections, GAC warning, and Board going out of its way to
listen to what government objections are even when the bylaws
didn’t even require it. </div>
<div dir="auto">We have now come up with yet another complex
regulatory framework (calling it that on purpose) for the second
round and want to ask ICANN to do a campaign for developing
underrepresented countries and communities? We haven’t even
sorted out the sanctions problems so residents of 6 sanctioned
countries can’t probably even apply. </div>
<div dir="auto">unfortunately the way these policies are developed
and designed will not make the new gtlds more relevant and will
not incentivize marginalized communities to participate. On top
of that, did we even consider marginalized communities when
coming up with all sorts of heavy handed policy criteria for
application? I haven’t heard. ICANN campaign will not benefit
anybody really but ICANN itself to receive more applications. </div>
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PM dorothy g <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com"
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Excellent
points Kathy, I hope we can find a way to communicate
these if the meeting is now over. The main message is
ICANN needs to improve its communications. I had raised
the issue of summary briefs to explain the current
concerns. 1 page max and these should be translated.</div>
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7:33 PM Kathy Kleiman <<a
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<p>Hi Benjamin,</p>
<p>My guess is that this meeting is now finished. For
future reference (or if the meeting is yet to come),
a topic of concern is how ICANN is preparing to
share the opening of the (upcoming) new gTLD
application rounds? What marketing efforts is it
planning to share the news with regions and
indigenous peoples that did not actively participate
in the "first round" (2012)?</p>
<p>To reach these groups and regions who did not
participate before, how much before the application
deadline will ICANN roll-out its marketing
campaign? How will it target its outreach to these
communities? In how many languages will the new
gTLD materials be shared? Can we petition for
materials to be translated into additional languages
if members of (NCSG) want to reach out to
communities we know, and whose members may
read/speak languages other than the UN 6? <br>
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<p>Hope it was a good meeting!</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
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<div>On 2/1/2022 4:21 AM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:<br>
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<div>Gentle reminder 😊<br>
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From: <strong class="gmail_sendername"
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Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:53 PM<br>
Subject: Community Leadership Calls with
Göran Marby<br>
To: NCUC-discuss <<a
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<div>Dear NCUC members,</div>
<div>Happy New Year to you again and I hope
you are doing great.</div>
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<div>I am writing to you to seek suggestions
on topics of interest you want me to
discuss with the ICANN CEO when we meet on
February 1st 2022..</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I look forward to hearing from you and
the topics you want me to discuss with
him.</div>
<div>Your timely response will be highly
appreciated.</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Benjamin </div>
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