<div><div dir="auto">DoH is sensitive to whom in the Middle East? The dictators I bet. of course DoH would be sensitive in the middle east because it can stop tyrants from censoring people (shivers). </div></div><div dir="auto">The speaker mentioned here is on a very one sided mission to fight with DoH. Having him as the only speaker and linking only to his presentation is unfair. </div><div dir="auto">But seems like he is not even the speaker, Adiel (ICANN staff member) is. So would be good to know what ICANN says. After all their employee (Someone else other than Adiel) was one of the co-authors of the RFC. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:53 AM Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><div class="gmail_default">Is DoT/DoH a good thing? The answer is definitively "it depends" - see Vittorio Bertola's presentation <a href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/ids-2019/07-bertola-the-doh-dilemma-dns-symposium-2019-v2-11may19-en.pdf" target="_blank">The DoH Dilemma</a> from the 2019 DNS Symposium. While it boosts security and privacy locally, it may also put even more data in the hands of what Jay Sulzberger refers to as "the englobulators". It's potential to defeat state censorship and surveillance makes it a particularly sensitive issue in the Middle East. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"> To learn more about DNS privacy, see the <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/03/dns-privacy-frequently-asked-questions-faq/" target="_blank">ISOC DNS Privacy FAQ</a></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><u></u>
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