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against the horrible platforms, and their deeply threatening advertisements. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>farzaneh badii<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2020 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> joly@punkcast.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] WEBCAST TODAY: ICANN Webinar for the Middle East: Understanding DNS over TLS (DoT) and DNS over HTTPS (#DoH)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">DoH is sensitive to whom in the Middle East? The dictators I bet. of course DoH would be sensitive in the middle east because it can stop tyrants from censoring people (shivers). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The speaker mentioned here is on a very one sided mission to fight with DoH. Having him as the only speaker and linking only to his presentation is unfair. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But seems like he is not even the speaker, Adiel (ICANN staff member) is. So would be good to know what ICANN says. After all their employee (Someone else other than Adiel) was one of the co-authors of the RFC. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:53 AM Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is DoT/DoH a good thing? The answer is definitively "it depends" - see Vittorio Bertola's presentation <a href="https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/packages/ids-2019/07-bertola-the-doh-dilemma-dns-symposium-2019-v2-11may19-en.pdf" target="_blank">The
DoH Dilemma</a> from the 2019 DNS Symposium. While it boosts security and privacy locally, it may also put even more data in the hands of what Jay Sulzberger refers to as "the englobulators". It's potential to defeat state censorship and surveillance makes
it a particularly sensitive issue in the Middle East. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To learn more about DNS privacy, see the <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/03/dns-privacy-frequently-asked-questions-faq/" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">ISOC Live posted: "On Monday 27 April 2020 at 13:00 UTC the Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) presents 'Webinar for the Middle East: Understanding DNS over TLS (DoT) and DNS over HTTPS (DoH)'. Internet Hall of
Fame Inductee Adiel Akplogan, ICANN Vi" <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444"><a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety/icann" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2585B2;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="300" height="169" style="width:3.125in;height:1.7638in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D61CB7.E60C3180" alt="Image removed by sender. livestream"></span></a>On
<strong><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Monday 27 April 2020</span></strong> at
<strong><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">13:00 UTC</span></strong> the <strong>
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://icann.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2585B2">Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers</span></a></span></strong> (ICANN) presents '<strong><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://go.icann.org/3avh1KB" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2585B2">Webinar
for the Middle East: Understanding DNS over TLS (DoT) and DNS over HTTPS (DoH)</span></a></span></strong>'. Internet Hall of Fame Inductee<strong><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">
<a href="https://www.internethalloffame.org/inductees/adiel-akplogan" target="_blank">
<span style="color:#2585B2">Adiel Akplogan</span></a></span></strong>, ICANN Vice President of Technical Engagement. DoT and DoH are new IETF technical standards that transmit DNS enquiries over encrypted connections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444">LIVESTREAM:
<a href="http://livestream.com/internetsociety/icann" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2585B2">http://livestream.com/internetsociety/icann</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444">PARTICIPATE:
<a href="https://go.icann.org/3avh1KB" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2585B2">https://go.icann.org/3avh1KB</span></a></span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#444444">TWITTER @ICANN + #DoH
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