<div dir="ltr">I totally agree that, at this point we are facing a first time experiment and it may not be as problematic to collapse the NCSG, NCUC or NPOC meetings. But if the COVID situation continues to spread, we will most likely face another virtual meeting and maybe it would interesting for us as a Constituency and Stakeholder group to reassess this experience and check what worked or not. As well as how to ensure participation considering the<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/language-services-at-icann67?fbclid=IwAR3YQXqWvnt4lH8UXSTwvPSMW4bUAZRkKnofdLM9Vz5mdIiyRQURK4GnssY#.Xlu8mylZ8M0.facebook"> limited resources for translation services</a>, for an example. <div><br><div><div><div>My decision on cancelling the NCUC meetings was due to the fact that we have members in a lot of places and adding the weight of Constituency Meetings to this first experience could make it a bit harder - due to the different timezones. Therefore the idea of hosting a members call a few weeks later for us to reassess icann67 seemed like a better idea. </div></div><div><br></div><div>In some ways, this experience might indeed be positive. Generally speaking, those of us attending meetings onsite tend to get really caught up with the work and f2f interactions that finding easy and authentic ways of reporting the meetings to remote participants is something long overdue. As mentioned by <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-3" href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" tabindex="-1">@Stephanie Perrin</a>, maybe we can think of a way to help people who wont be able to be online and participate at the meeting live - I would like to offer the Blog space at <a href="http://ncuc.org">ncuc.org</a> for anyone willing to write short summaries of the sessions.</div><div><div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Best, <br>Bruna Santos <br>NCUC Chair </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le sam. 29 févr. 2020 à 17:19, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks to Bruna for keeping us updated on what is going on with the all-virtual meeting, I guess we can call it the Zoom meeting. Appreciate the explanation,
and agree with many of your criticisms. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">But in one sense I think is fine to collapse the NCSG and NCUC meetings. I would not call that an abandonment of the NCUC, let’s just call it a merger. I hope
you as well as NPOC can stick some of their own things into the agenda. And it don’t hurt us to discuss those things together. Everyone knows I don’t believe there should be separate constituencies anyway, just the unified SG. So it might do us good to meet
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">In that sense I agree with Benjamin that we can make lemonade out of this lemon and maybe make use of the opportunity to improve the multistakeholder model
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dr. Milton L Mueller<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Georgia Institute of Technology<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Ncuc-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Benjamin Akinmoyeje<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 28, 2020 10:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NCUC Discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Updates on ICANN67<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Chair,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the update. It is indeed a challenge, just like every experiment is. Change is always constant, also in the face of the health challenges, the world faces at this present time. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe we can make some lemonade out of this lemon without hurting the MS model and rather improve it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:59 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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1. Number of sessions has been cut down from over 300 sessions to less than 75 - all in UTC-5. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Upon request ICANN can provide zoom rooms with live translation to both French and Spanish. But we need to gather within our constituency whether there will be interest for any of the channels just so ICANN can set up one for NCSG or
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Please let me or <a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" id="gmail-m_4269712710816631357gmail-m_-1187563265644357068plusReplyChip-0" target="_blank">@Maryam Bakoshi</a> know if you would like to attend the meeting from either one of the channels - Spanish or French ones. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le ven. 28 févr. 2020 à 12:23, Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<u></u><u></u></p>
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I just wanted to write you a short update on the upcoming ICANN virtual meeting. As you're all aware, recently ICANN decided to no longer host an onsite meeting and gave their staff and the Community Leaders the - impossible - challenge of organizing in two
weeks an virtual meeting that should attempt at reproducing what would've been the schedule of ICANN67. <br>
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(a) NCUC will no longer host any sessions during this virtual meeting. On the interest of time and already foreseeing some difficulties our members might have in following this meeting, we will host our Members and EC session at a later date. <u></u><u></u></p>
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(c) Timezone will be Cancun TImezone - UTC -5 - and the meeting will run for shorter hours than normal, from 9h00 to 17h00. <u></u><u></u></p>
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and maybe we could think of ways of having our french speakers writing up summaries of the sessions to be shared on the list. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With regards to the final schedule I believe ICANN should be able to provide us a new one by the beginning of next week.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Last but not least, I would like to highlight how problematic this experiment has been. Of course it is a first time for ICANN and for us volunteers, but the decision of adapting the entire schedule in two weeks is ambitious to say the
least. I also fear that this experiment ends up harming the MS model we have built ICANN around, whether virtual or onsite, a lot of the communities interactions are being sacrificed on behalf of this first experiment and I just hope we get to have an onsite
Kuala Lumpur meeting as well as a broader community discussions about this first virtual meeting. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While I highly appreciate all the efforts being made by David Olive, Tanzanica, the meetings team and Maryam in making sure our priority meetings do make it to the schedule, (personal thought) I would've wished for ICANN to just call this
meeting of or even postpone it for us to have a bit more time in discussing with our constituents what the priorities should be and how to better adjust the schedule. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will keep you all posted when there are more updates on the virtual meeting. <u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><i>Bruna Martins dos Santos </i></b></div><div><br></div><div><div>Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br></div><div>@boomartins<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>