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<p>Apologies for cross posting, but I wanted to chime in on this
discussion which Bruna has kicked off. I absolutely agree with
Bruna's first assessment at the bottom of this post. I think
cancelling will (already is) proving to be the correct decision,
and we will have to, as Ben says, make lemonade out of this one.
It will take a lot of sugar and hard work!</p>
<p>Staff have worked very hard to pull together the agenda, but this
meeting will be a pale shadow of a regular public meeting, with so
few sessions, restricted hours, and limited technical capability.
All three of us, Bruna, Joan and I, have lobbied for french
capability, and Maryam (bless her, she has been working tirelessly
on our behalf) tried to at least get it for the NCSG main session,
but we are unable to do so. ALAC and GAC always have french
translation so they are getting it....I think if there is enough
interest, we should be setting up for this. We have a large
number of members from the francophonie, especially in Africa, who
are not going to get the most out of this meeting as it is,
hampered as they will be with the limitations of zoom, the reality
that they will not be able to listen live in many cases because of
the time zones, and of course the bandwidth issues.....ICANN
meetings are never best when you are restricted to a phone.</p>
<p>In terms of time zones, we are really stuck in the Asia Pacific
region, as the UTC-5 will be the middle of the night. Many (most)
of our volunteers have day jobs, they cannot just flip night and
day for the week and stay online. Suggestions as to how we can
make this more meaningful or helpful for those members, eg by
having a discussion of the days events and highlights for those
who missed it, might at least help with engagement and
inclusivity.</p>
<p>We are trying our best to maintain sessions that are of interest
to you, please keep the suggestions coming. There is a strong
possibility that Kuala Lumpur may also be cancelled, in my
opinion, and I do not want that meeting to be as limited as this
one, so lets try to think of some new ways to engage and work
together without a face to face meeting.</p>
<p>Kind regards, <br>
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<p>Stephanie Perrin</p>
<p>NCSG Chair<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-02-28 9:59 p.m., Benjamin
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Chair,
<div>Thank you for the update. It is indeed a challenge, just
like every experiment is. Change is always constant, also in
the face of the health challenges, the world faces at this
present time. </div>
<div>Maybe we can make some lemonade out of this lemon without
hurting the MS model and rather improve it.</div>
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<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Benjamin</div>
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PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a
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<div dir="ltr">We just got off another planning call, and with
some new updates: <br>
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1. Number of sessions has been cut down from over 300
sessions to less than 75 - all in UTC-5.
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<div>2. Upon request ICANN can provide zoom rooms with live
translation to both French and Spanish. But we need to
gather within our constituency whether there will be
interest for any of the channels just so ICANN can set up
one for NCSG or if we could just join the ones being
facilitated to ALAC and GAC. <br>
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Please let me or <a class="gmail_plusreply"
id="gmail-m_-1187563265644357068plusReplyChip-0"
href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">@Maryam Bakoshi</a> know if you
would like to attend the meeting from either one of the
channels - Spanish or French ones. </div>
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<div>Best regards, </div>
<div>Bruna Santos <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear NCUC, <br>
<br>
I just wanted to write you a short update on the
upcoming ICANN virtual meeting. As you're all aware,
recently ICANN decided to no longer host an onsite
meeting and gave their staff and the Community Leaders
the - impossible - challenge of organizing in two weeks
an virtual meeting that should attempt at reproducing
what would've been the schedule of ICANN67. <br>
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On that note some important things: <br>
(a) NCUC will no longer host any sessions during this
virtual meeting. On the interest of time and already
foreseeing some difficulties our members might have in
following this meeting, we will host our Members and EC
session at a later date.
<div>(b) ICANN67 Schedule will be shorter. Comm leaders
were asked to only keep strictly necessary sessions
and the consensus around the group was to keep mostly
PDPs, Review Teams or any other Cross-community work
we deemed necessary. <br>
(c) Timezone will be Cancun TImezone - UTC -5 - and
the meeting will run for shorter hours than normal,
from 9h00 to 17h00. </div>
<div>(d) Live Translation Services will only be provided
for English to Spanish + some live transcripts that
could be translated. We understand that decision
should be slightly exclusionary for other communities
such as the Francophone community and maybe we could
think of ways of having our french speakers writing up
summaries of the sessions to be shared on the list. </div>
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<div>With regards to the final schedule I believe ICANN
should be able to provide us a new one by the
beginning of next week.</div>
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<div>Last but not least, I would like to highlight how
problematic this experiment has been. Of course it is
a first time for ICANN and for us volunteers, but the
decision of adapting the entire schedule in two weeks
is ambitious to say the least. I also fear that this
experiment ends up harming the MS model we have built
ICANN around, whether virtual or onsite, a lot of the
communities interactions are being sacrificed on
behalf of this first experiment and I just hope we get
to have an onsite Kuala Lumpur meeting as well as a
broader community discussions about this first virtual
meeting. </div>
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<div>While I highly appreciate all the efforts being
made by David Olive, Tanzanica, the meetings team and
Maryam in making sure our priority meetings do make it
to the schedule, (personal thought) I would've wished
for ICANN to just call this meeting of or even
postpone it for us to have a bit more time in
discussing with our constituents what the priorities
should be and how to better adjust the schedule. </div>
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<div>I will keep you all posted when there are more
updates on the virtual meeting. </div>
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<div>Best Regards, <br clear="all">
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