<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi, all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just wanted to support Kathy’s very good points below. I remember the early days when we helped establish PIR. Much of that history is relevant now. For those who may not know about the history of PIR — and the understandings in place when the .ORG was assigned to PIR —  here is a brief history:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class="">Rotenberg,<i class=""> Save the .ORG and All that it Symbolizes</i></div><div class="">The Hill,  Dec. 9, 2019</div><div class=""><a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/473537-save-the-org-domain-and-all-it-symbolizes" class="">https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/473537-save-the-org-domain-and-all-it-symbolizes</a></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@dnrc.tech" class="">kathy@dnrc.tech</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div class=""><p class="">All,</p><p class="">I'm a little shocked by the discussion. ISOC took on .ORG 15
      years ago with obligations of stewardship to the .ORG community.
      We remember those obligations. When I worked at PIR, in 2010+, I
      lived and breathed those obligations. We worked and cared about
      the .ORG community. It was part of the fabric of ISOC (then
      located down the hall) that we build and foster the .ORG
      community.<br class="">
    </p><p class="">ICANN has decided -- without public input or agreement and
      without Multistakeholder processes -- that New gTLDs can do
      anything to compete against legacy gTLDs, including that they can
      buy and sell intellectual property protections and content
      censorship <i class="">that we never agreed to as a Community. </i>Registries
      can raise and lower prices; they can take down domain names at
      will; frankly, new gTLDs can abuse their registrants.</p><p class="">Which is why most registrants stay in the legacy gTLDs, .com,
      .org, and .net.  Because Verisign has an ongoing obligations - via
      the US Government - to fair pricing and content neutrality. ISOC,
      via .ORG, has stewardship obligations to care for and foster the
      .ORG community and noncommercial, nonprofits, and NGOs around the
      world (as well as educational, research and hobby groups).  The
      founding documents of ICANN are very clear that the Internet is
      not private property, but valued and shared resources,
      particularly the DNS.<br class="">
    </p>
    A few things to remember:
    <p class="">**We** (ICANN Community) did not agree to the massive changes to
      the .ORG contract that took place over the summer. That was ICANN
      Org's drafting and ICANN Org's decision to weigh the comment of
      the IPC (Intellectual Property Constituency) in favor of the
      changes **against 3200 comment opposing the changes.** There was
      no Multistakeholder agreement here.</p><p class="">**We** (.ORG Community) did not know about or agree to the sale
      of .ORG on terms that ensure absolutely no protection for the .ORG
      registrants (the community our NCUC constituency represents).  If
      you want to see how bad policies will significantly damage the
      traditional .ORG community, please read the very eloquent concerns
      that EFF is writing.  NOTE: not a single public process/comment
      has taken place on this sale.  GAC has taken the lead in asking
      for public processes -- NCUC should be asking for public processes
      too! <br class="">
    </p><p class="">---------------<br class="">
    </p><p class="">The Internet was always a shared system -- like the airwaves.  If
      you license a radio station almost this work -- because the rules
      we wrote protected communities we cared about and a broad array of
      speech. Ditto for telephone systems.  Ditto for the global Domain
      Name System. It's why many of us have devoted so many years to
      trying to write good, fair and balanced policies for the DNS.  <br class="">
    </p><p class="">Now, increasingly, ICANN Org has no use for registrants or the
      Multistakeholder Model. Staff re-writes any consensus policy they
      want; Staff writes contract allowing content control (censorship)
      beyond the scope and limits of ICANN's own Bylaws. Our obsession
      for years at ICANN has been the rights of registries -- and we
      have forgotten about Registrants.  <br class="">
    </p><p class="">But we're the NCUC and it is our job to remind ICANN that that
      promises, protections, and good stewardship were obligations made
      by ISOC when it took on .ORG.  Andrew Sullivan and Vint Cerf may
      no longer consider DNS "cool," but the Public Interest Registry
      which runs .ORG is a legal "child corporation" of ISOC, both are
      non-profits and both made obligations to .ORG registrants -- our
      NCUC members (and the larger community we represent of .ORG
      registrants).</p><p class="">Milton may have a personal vendetta with Esther Dyson, but that's
      beside the point:  WikiMedia gets more hits daily than almost any
      other .ORG domai name; it has every right (indeed the obligation)
      to protect the massive amount of information it supports -- the
      treasure trove of research, facts and analysis written by the
      public. WikiMedia is also a founding member of CCOR.  And let's
      not forget the diversity of groups that flock to .ORG as
      registrants-- including noncommercial, research, educational,
      personal, political, religious, ethnic, gender (how many hundreds
      of times have we in NCUC, NPOC and NCSG written these words?). 
      They all deserve the protection that we, NCUC, have fought for on
      their behalf for two decades. <br class="">
    </p><p class="">Having worked at .ORG, under ISOC, I believe ISOC's obligations
      and commitments of stewardship for .ORG are binding. For the
      lawyers on the list, please remember the enforcement mechanisms
      that exist for contracts and representations. We all relied on
      them in building our treasured web presences under our .ORG domain
      names. <br class="">
    </p>
    If ISOC is ready to relinquish an asset <b class=""><i class="">f</i></b><i class="">or which
      it paid not a single cent</i><i class="">, </i>I think there should be an
    opportunity for organizations to step forward who will honor the
    obligations of ISOC to .ORG and protect the .ORG community.  CCOR is
    starting that discussion and that is a good thing! <b class=""><br class="">
    </b><p class=""><br class="">
    </p><p class="">Best, Kathy</p><p class="">Kathy Kleiman, AU WCL, Former Director of Policy for .ORG,
      co-founder NCUC.<br class="">
    </p><p class=""><br class="">
    </p><p class=""><br class="">
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2020 11:08 AM, Martin Pablo
      Silva Valent wrote:<br class="">
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:33323310-6D7A-4609-A809-BB79A7E02C29@gmail.com" class="">
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      “<span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-size: 12pt;" class="">What matters is the Registry
        Agreement, as I've said all along. </span>“ Exactly, I don’t
      know why we go around the bush. This agreement gives PIR and ICANN
      right and obligation. Unless we wanna breach it, and pay the
      consequences, which no one wants to, we have to play by the rules
      we wrote as an organisation. Let’s talk that, let’s talk how we
      are gonna play that chess, because there is no other, any debate
      outside it is irrelevant and distractive.
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">On the other hand, I agree that CCOR in no way gives
        me any trust or insurance, much less ICANN hand picking
        registrars. Our insurance, our warrants, is the Agreement. If we
        want a different .org operation we don’t need to look further
        than the agreement we own, and that in later renewals we can
        change, we can negotiate to change it with the current holders,
        etc.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Let’s talk about the agreement, how we can use it,
        and what channels do we have to work it. Don’t loose the focus.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Martín</div>
      <div class="">
        <div class=""><br class="">
          <div class=""><br class="">
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              <div class="">On 13 Jan 2020, at 17:33, Mueller, Milton L
                <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>>
                wrote:</div>
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                  font-size: 12pt;" class="">In your discussion of At
                  Large elections, you fail to note that Mike Roberts,
                  Esther Dyson, Andrew McLaughlin and the entire initial
                  board and legal staff of ICANN were adamantly opposed
                  to having elections and membership at all. Not
                  opinion, fact. They delayed the elections as much as
                  they could. And when we had them, elections were
                  limited them to 5 board seats instead of the entire
                  board. And then after the members elected dissidents
                  to the board that the staff and board didn't like,
                  they abolished them and created the current
                  dysfunctional RALO/ALAC structure. </div>
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                  font-size: 12pt;" class="">So you seem to have a
                  rather distorted perspective on ICANN's early history
                  and the role of these characters in it. No one in the
                  early days of NCUC/NCSG viewed Dyson or Roberts as
                  friendly and supportive of our community.</div>
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                  font-size: 12pt;" class="">As for the claim that CCOR
                  is "way better" than Ethos/PIR, three responses.
                  First, there is no indication that ICANN is in any
                  position to simply re-bid the entire ORG delegation to
                  anyone who pops up, and if it does rebid it should be
                  via an open call, not an insider deal such as is
                  proposed by CCOR. Second, CCOR would have a lot more
                  credibility with the community if it was not based on
                  a cabal of old ICANN insiders. I mean Esther Dyson?
                  Really? Third, as a cooperative they claim that ORG
                  would be run by its "members" by which they mean ORG
                  registrants. Since the _majority_ of ORG registrants
                  could very well be defensive registrations and
                  domainers, it is not clear to me that this is a win
                  for us. </div>
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                  font-size: 12pt;" class="">As for Wikimedia, they are
                  the lipstick on the pig. Nice people, great mission,
                  but CCOR is just another claimant for a $1,135 billion
                  asset, no different in principle from ISOC or Ethos.
                  Whatever they are proposing is nothing more than a
                  promise at this point, just like Ethos. What matters
                  is the Registry Agreement, as I've said all along. </div>
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                    <<a href="mailto:alan@afridns.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">alan@afridns.org</a>><br class="">
                    <b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                    January 13, 2020 3:33 AM<br class="">
                    <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mueller,
                    Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br class="">
                    <b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wisdom
                    Donkor <<a href="mailto:wisdom.dk@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">wisdom.dk@gmail.com</a>>;
                    NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br class="">
                    <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                    [NCUC-DISCUSS] Reuters reports new cooperative
                    formed to take over management of .ORG</font>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="">Hi,
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                      <div class="">Milton, I am surprised by this....
                        it's pure opinion, and I must point it out to
                        others... :(  comments inline... </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 8,
                        2020 at 7:41 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
                        wrote:<br class="">
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                            <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                              0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Oh,
                                this is such hypocrisy. So Andrew
                                McLaughlin, Mike Roberts and Esther
                                Dyson (who totally dissed the
                                noncommercial constituency when they
                                held positions of power in ICANN are now
                                coming to the rescue of the
                                noncommercial community by
                                altruistically offering to take over an
                                asset worth $1 billion.</span></div>
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                      <div class=""><br class="">
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                      <div class="">Well actually at that time there was
                        a MUCH stronger focus on At Large and we had a
                        global election! Things were way better from the
                        point of end users, we even had an accountable
                        diverse board.  Some 20 years down the line
                        there are still major issues here... </div>
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                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
                                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                font-size: 11pt;" class="">Those people
                                are _</span><i style="color: rgb(31, 73,
                                125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                font-size: 11pt;" class="">not</i><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
                                font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                font-size: 11pt;" class="">_ our
                                friends.</span></div>
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                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">Well, speak for yourself.  As far as
                        I can see they are way better than the
                        organisational ISOC/Ethos deal, from the .org
                        perspective. </div>
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                            <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
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                                73, 125); font-family: Calibri,
                                sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">This
                                is an example of why we need to be
                                careful how we react to this proposed
                                sale. This is just turning into a land
                                grab, by which certain interests (e.g.
                                Wikimedia Foundation) are seeking to
                                exploit the controversy to take over ORG
                                for themselves.</span></div>
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                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">So are you also pointing to the
                        wikimedia foundation as exploitative?? </div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">I have been involved passionately in
                        ISOC for 25 years... after Salt Lake City it was
                        never the same. The Internet Society of South
                        Africa had to split and create Internet South
                        Africa. ISOC has institutional control and is in
                        the Ethos deal. </div>
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                      <div class="">Sincerely</div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">Alan</div>
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                                  font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ncuc-discuss
                                <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wisdom
                                Donkor</span></div>
                            <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
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                                January 8, 2020 5:28 AM<br class="">
                                <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCUC-discuss
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                                <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NCUC-DISCUSS]
                                Reuters reports new cooperative formed
                                to take over management of .ORG</span></div>
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                            <div class="">
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">In this <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar%7Ctwitter&par=sharebar" title="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">7 January
                                    2020 article</a> we learn that, "<i class="">prominent internet
                                    executives told Reuters they have
                                    created a nonprofit cooperative they
                                    are offering as an alternative owner
                                    of .org.</i>"</div>
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                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">This
                                  would appear to me to pose an
                                  existential threat to ISOC, as this
                                  nonprofit cooperative - whose
                                  membership appears to me to have more
                                  political muscle than ISOC has - is
                                  not proposing to buy PIR from ISOC,
                                  but to instead have the .ORG Registry
                                  Agreement assigned to it by ICANN.</div>
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                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The full
                                  article is here, and I have extracted
                                  some relevant quotes below: <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar%7Ctwitter&par=sharebar" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar</a></div>
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                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">“What offended me about the
                                    Ethos Capital deal and the way it
                                    unfolded is that it seems to have
                                    completely betrayed this concept of
                                    stewardship,” said Andrew
                                    McLaughlin, who oversaw the transfer
                                    of internet governance from the U.S.
                                    Commerce Department to ICANN,
                                    completed in 2016.</i></div>
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                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">Maher and others said the
                                    idea of the new cooperative is not
                                    to offer a competing financial bid
                                    for .org, which brings in roughly
                                    $100 million in revenue from domain
                                    sales. Instead, they hope that the
                                    unusual new entity, formally a
                                    California Consumer Cooperative
                                    Corporation, can manage the domain
                                    for security and stability and make
                                    sure it does not become a tool for
                                    censorship.</i></div>
                              </div>
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                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">... The initial seven
                                    directors of the cooperative include
                                    former founding ICANN President
                                    Michael Roberts, MacArthur
                                    Foundation philanthropist Jeff Ubois
                                    and Bill Woodcock, whose Packet
                                    Clearing House now runs the
                                    technical aspects of the .org system
                                    under contract.</i></div>
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                                <div style="margin-top: 0px;
                                  margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">The new group has briefed
                                    members of the U.S. Congress and
                                    hopes to prompt the Internet Society
                                    to reconsider the sale. But its best
                                    shot at stopping the pending sale
                                    lies with ICANN, which can veto any
                                    change in ownership out of concern
                                    for the security, reliability or
                                    stability of the .org domain.</i></div>
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