<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi, all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just wanted to support Kathy’s very good points below. I remember the early days when we helped establish PIR. Much of that history is relevant now. For those who may not know about the history of PIR — and the understandings in place when the .ORG was assigned to PIR — here is a brief history:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class="">Rotenberg,<i class=""> Save the .ORG and All that it Symbolizes</i></div><div class="">The Hill, Dec. 9, 2019</div><div class=""><a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/473537-save-the-org-domain-and-all-it-symbolizes" class="">https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/473537-save-the-org-domain-and-all-it-symbolizes</a></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@dnrc.tech" class="">kathy@dnrc.tech</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">All,</p><p class="">I'm a little shocked by the discussion. ISOC took on .ORG 15
years ago with obligations of stewardship to the .ORG community.
We remember those obligations. When I worked at PIR, in 2010+, I
lived and breathed those obligations. We worked and cared about
the .ORG community. It was part of the fabric of ISOC (then
located down the hall) that we build and foster the .ORG
community.<br class="">
</p><p class="">ICANN has decided -- without public input or agreement and
without Multistakeholder processes -- that New gTLDs can do
anything to compete against legacy gTLDs, including that they can
buy and sell intellectual property protections and content
censorship <i class="">that we never agreed to as a Community. </i>Registries
can raise and lower prices; they can take down domain names at
will; frankly, new gTLDs can abuse their registrants.</p><p class="">Which is why most registrants stay in the legacy gTLDs, .com,
.org, and .net. Because Verisign has an ongoing obligations - via
the US Government - to fair pricing and content neutrality. ISOC,
via .ORG, has stewardship obligations to care for and foster the
.ORG community and noncommercial, nonprofits, and NGOs around the
world (as well as educational, research and hobby groups). The
founding documents of ICANN are very clear that the Internet is
not private property, but valued and shared resources,
particularly the DNS.<br class="">
</p>
A few things to remember:
<p class="">**We** (ICANN Community) did not agree to the massive changes to
the .ORG contract that took place over the summer. That was ICANN
Org's drafting and ICANN Org's decision to weigh the comment of
the IPC (Intellectual Property Constituency) in favor of the
changes **against 3200 comment opposing the changes.** There was
no Multistakeholder agreement here.</p><p class="">**We** (.ORG Community) did not know about or agree to the sale
of .ORG on terms that ensure absolutely no protection for the .ORG
registrants (the community our NCUC constituency represents). If
you want to see how bad policies will significantly damage the
traditional .ORG community, please read the very eloquent concerns
that EFF is writing. NOTE: not a single public process/comment
has taken place on this sale. GAC has taken the lead in asking
for public processes -- NCUC should be asking for public processes
too! <br class="">
</p><p class="">---------------<br class="">
</p><p class="">The Internet was always a shared system -- like the airwaves. If
you license a radio station almost this work -- because the rules
we wrote protected communities we cared about and a broad array of
speech. Ditto for telephone systems. Ditto for the global Domain
Name System. It's why many of us have devoted so many years to
trying to write good, fair and balanced policies for the DNS. <br class="">
</p><p class="">Now, increasingly, ICANN Org has no use for registrants or the
Multistakeholder Model. Staff re-writes any consensus policy they
want; Staff writes contract allowing content control (censorship)
beyond the scope and limits of ICANN's own Bylaws. Our obsession
for years at ICANN has been the rights of registries -- and we
have forgotten about Registrants. <br class="">
</p><p class="">But we're the NCUC and it is our job to remind ICANN that that
promises, protections, and good stewardship were obligations made
by ISOC when it took on .ORG. Andrew Sullivan and Vint Cerf may
no longer consider DNS "cool," but the Public Interest Registry
which runs .ORG is a legal "child corporation" of ISOC, both are
non-profits and both made obligations to .ORG registrants -- our
NCUC members (and the larger community we represent of .ORG
registrants).</p><p class="">Milton may have a personal vendetta with Esther Dyson, but that's
beside the point: WikiMedia gets more hits daily than almost any
other .ORG domai name; it has every right (indeed the obligation)
to protect the massive amount of information it supports -- the
treasure trove of research, facts and analysis written by the
public. WikiMedia is also a founding member of CCOR. And let's
not forget the diversity of groups that flock to .ORG as
registrants-- including noncommercial, research, educational,
personal, political, religious, ethnic, gender (how many hundreds
of times have we in NCUC, NPOC and NCSG written these words?).
They all deserve the protection that we, NCUC, have fought for on
their behalf for two decades. <br class="">
</p><p class="">Having worked at .ORG, under ISOC, I believe ISOC's obligations
and commitments of stewardship for .ORG are binding. For the
lawyers on the list, please remember the enforcement mechanisms
that exist for contracts and representations. We all relied on
them in building our treasured web presences under our .ORG domain
names. <br class="">
</p>
If ISOC is ready to relinquish an asset <b class=""><i class="">f</i></b><i class="">or which
it paid not a single cent</i><i class="">, </i>I think there should be an
opportunity for organizations to step forward who will honor the
obligations of ISOC to .ORG and protect the .ORG community. CCOR is
starting that discussion and that is a good thing! <b class=""><br class="">
</b><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class="">Best, Kathy</p><p class="">Kathy Kleiman, AU WCL, Former Director of Policy for .ORG,
co-founder NCUC.<br class="">
</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2020 11:08 AM, Martin Pablo
Silva Valent wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:33323310-6D7A-4609-A809-BB79A7E02C29@gmail.com" class="">
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“<span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="">What matters is the Registry
Agreement, as I've said all along. </span>“ Exactly, I don’t
know why we go around the bush. This agreement gives PIR and ICANN
right and obligation. Unless we wanna breach it, and pay the
consequences, which no one wants to, we have to play by the rules
we wrote as an organisation. Let’s talk that, let’s talk how we
are gonna play that chess, because there is no other, any debate
outside it is irrelevant and distractive.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">On the other hand, I agree that CCOR in no way gives
me any trust or insurance, much less ICANN hand picking
registrars. Our insurance, our warrants, is the Agreement. If we
want a different .org operation we don’t need to look further
than the agreement we own, and that in later renewals we can
change, we can negotiate to change it with the current holders,
etc.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Let’s talk about the agreement, how we can use it,
and what channels do we have to work it. Don’t loose the focus.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Martín</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On 13 Jan 2020, at 17:33, Mueller, Milton L
<<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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</div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="">In your discussion of At
Large elections, you fail to note that Mike Roberts,
Esther Dyson, Andrew McLaughlin and the entire initial
board and legal staff of ICANN were adamantly opposed
to having elections and membership at all. Not
opinion, fact. They delayed the elections as much as
they could. And when we had them, elections were
limited them to 5 board seats instead of the entire
board. And then after the members elected dissidents
to the board that the staff and board didn't like,
they abolished them and created the current
dysfunctional RALO/ALAC structure. </div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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</div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="">So you seem to have a
rather distorted perspective on ICANN's early history
and the role of these characters in it. No one in the
early days of NCUC/NCSG viewed Dyson or Roberts as
friendly and supportive of our community.</div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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</div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="">As for the claim that CCOR
is "way better" than Ethos/PIR, three responses.
First, there is no indication that ICANN is in any
position to simply re-bid the entire ORG delegation to
anyone who pops up, and if it does rebid it should be
via an open call, not an insider deal such as is
proposed by CCOR. Second, CCOR would have a lot more
credibility with the community if it was not based on
a cabal of old ICANN insiders. I mean Esther Dyson?
Really? Third, as a cooperative they claim that ORG
would be run by its "members" by which they mean ORG
registrants. Since the _majority_ of ORG registrants
could very well be defensive registrations and
domainers, it is not clear to me that this is a win
for us. </div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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</div>
<div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
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font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt;" class="">As for Wikimedia, they are
the lipstick on the pig. Nice people, great mission,
but CCOR is just another claimant for a $1,135 billion
asset, no different in principle from ISOC or Ethos.
Whatever they are proposing is nothing more than a
promise at this point, just like Ethos. What matters
is the Registry Agreement, as I've said all along. </div>
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</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color:
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none;" class=""><font style="font-size: 11pt;" class="" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Alan Levin
<<a href="mailto:alan@afridns.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">alan@afridns.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
January 13, 2020 3:33 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mueller,
Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wisdom
Donkor <<a href="mailto:wisdom.dk@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">wisdom.dk@gmail.com</a>>;
NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[NCUC-DISCUSS] Reuters reports new cooperative
formed to take over management of .ORG</font>
<div class=""> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hi,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Milton, I am surprised by this....
it's pure opinion, and I must point it out to
others... :( comments inline... </div>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="x_gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 8,
2020 at 7:41 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:
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<div class="" lang="EN-US">
<div class="x_gmail-m_-2606225170793849275WordSection1">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Oh,
this is such hypocrisy. So Andrew
McLaughlin, Mike Roberts and Esther
Dyson (who totally dissed the
noncommercial constituency when they
held positions of power in ICANN are now
coming to the rescue of the
noncommercial community by
altruistically offering to take over an
asset worth $1 billion.</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Well actually at that time there was
a MUCH stronger focus on At Large and we had a
global election! Things were way better from the
point of end users, we even had an accountable
diverse board. Some 20 years down the line
there are still major issues here... </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:
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<div class="" lang="EN-US">
<div class="x_gmail-m_-2606225170793849275WordSection1">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""></span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt;" class="">Those people
are _</span><i style="color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt;" class="">not</i><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt;" class="">_ our
friends.</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Well, speak for yourself. As far as
I can see they are way better than the
organisational ISOC/Ethos deal, from the .org
perspective. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin:
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<div class="" lang="EN-US">
<div class="x_gmail-m_-2606225170793849275WordSection1">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">This
is an example of why we need to be
careful how we react to this proposed
sale. This is just turning into a land
grab, by which certain interests (e.g.
Wikimedia Foundation) are seeking to
exploit the controversy to take over ORG
for themselves.</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">So are you also pointing to the
wikimedia foundation as exploitative?? </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I have been involved passionately in
ISOC for 25 years... after Salt Lake City it was
never the same. The Internet Society of South
Africa had to split and create Internet South
Africa. ISOC has institutional control and is in
the Ethos deal. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Sincerely</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Alan</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
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<div class="" lang="EN-US">
<div class="x_gmail-m_-2606225170793849275WordSection1">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ncuc-discuss
<<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wisdom
Donkor</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
January 8, 2020 5:28 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCUC-discuss
<<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NCUC-DISCUSS]
Reuters reports new cooperative formed
to take over management of .ORG</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""> </div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">In this <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar%7Ctwitter&par=sharebar" title="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">7 January
2020 article</a> we learn that, "<i class="">prominent internet
executives told Reuters they have
created a nonprofit cooperative they
are offering as an alternative owner
of .org.</i>"</div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px;
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would appear to me to pose an
existential threat to ISOC, as this
nonprofit cooperative - whose
membership appears to me to have more
political muscle than ISOC has - is
not proposing to buy PIR from ISOC,
but to instead have the .ORG Registry
Agreement assigned to it by ICANN.</div>
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article is here, and I have extracted
some relevant quotes below: <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar%7Ctwitter&par=sharebar" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/reuters-america-internet-nonprofit-leaders-fight-deal-to-sell-control-of-org-domain.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar</a></div>
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margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">“What offended me about the
Ethos Capital deal and the way it
unfolded is that it seems to have
completely betrayed this concept of
stewardship,” said Andrew
McLaughlin, who oversaw the transfer
of internet governance from the U.S.
Commerce Department to ICANN,
completed in 2016.</i></div>
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margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">Maher and others said the
idea of the new cooperative is not
to offer a competing financial bid
for .org, which brings in roughly
$100 million in revenue from domain
sales. Instead, they hope that the
unusual new entity, formally a
California Consumer Cooperative
Corporation, can manage the domain
for security and stability and make
sure it does not become a tool for
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margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">... The initial seven
directors of the cooperative include
former founding ICANN President
Michael Roberts, MacArthur
Foundation philanthropist Jeff Ubois
and Bill Woodcock, whose Packet
Clearing House now runs the
technical aspects of the .org system
under contract.</i></div>
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members of the U.S. Congress and
hopes to prompt the Internet Society
to reconsider the sale. But its best
shot at stopping the pending sale
lies with ICANN, which can veto any
change in ownership out of concern
for the security, reliability or
stability of the .org domain.</i></div>
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