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<br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 28, 2019, at 12:29 AM, Zhou Heng <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn" class="">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1.7; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Dear NCSG colleagues,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Today, the Cyber Administration of China issues the draft of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Data Security Management Regulation<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></i>(DSMR), and receiving public comments. I personally believed that the DSMR could be viewed as a Chinese-version GDPR. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">I noticed that article 27 of the DSMR draft mentioned:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">“Article 27. The network service provider should evaluate the security issue /possible risk,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">and obtain the consent of personal information subject</b>, before they provide the personal information to others, unless:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">1) The personal information is collected through public and lawful manner and is not obviously against the willing of personal information subject;<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">2) The personal information is voluntarily disclosed by personal information subject;<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">3) The personal information has been anonymized;<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">4) The personal information is required by law enforcement agency;<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">5) The personal information is required for protecting<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">nation security, society public interest or the life security of personal information subject.</b>”<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Obviously, ICANN could be considered as a network service provider in such article, and WHOIS service could be regarded as providing personal information to others. In addition, Intellectual property issue is not mentioned here.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">I hope such information might help NCUC representatives in EPDP process. If you are interested about this draft, you might view the website of Cyber Administration of China to get the full text of this draft (Link: <a href="http://www.cac.gov.cn/2019-05/28/c_1124546022.htm" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.cac.gov.cn/2019-05/28/c_1124546022.htm</a>). Unfortunately, the Cyber Administration of China only provided the Chinese version. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Best regards,</span></div><br class=""><div style="position: relative; zoom: 1;" class="">--<br class=""><div class="">Zhou Heng</div><div class="">Ph.d Candidate</div><div class="">Renmin University of China</div><div style="clear: both;" class=""></div></div><br class=""><div id="isForwardContent" class="">-------- 转发邮件信息 --------<br class="">发件人：socata <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>><br class="">发送日期：2018-06-21 19:02:24<br class="">收件人："Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>><br class="">抄送人：<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">主题：Re:Important article about Whois and accreditation<br class=""><div style="line-height: 1.7; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.7; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div class="">Dear Milton,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Recently, I am writing an article in Chinese about the conflict between WHOIS and GDPR, in which Your book <i class=""><b class="">Networks and Stats: The Global Politics of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></i><i class=""><b class="">Internet Governance</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>gives me a lots of inspiration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>In addition, I believe even in different languages, I share lots of viewpoint of your proposed article<i class=""> <b class="">Let’s talk about WHOIS accreditation – Before it’s too late.</b></i></div><div class="">Tomorrow, I will give a speech about this issue in a seminar hosted in the China Foreign Affairs University (You may refer to the Chinese link for further details here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://gjfx.cfau.edu.cn/art/2018/5/4/art_1842_65690.html)," _src="http://gjfx.cfau.edu.cn/art/2018/5/4/art_1842_65690.html)," style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://gjfx.cfau.edu.cn/art/2018/5/4/art_1842_65690.html)</a> to talk about my article, and I hope maybe this article may be published at a journal in China very soon. </div><div class=""><span style="font-family: DengXian; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="">There are some things I hope the community may notice:</div><div class="">1. ICANN's intellectual property protection rules like UDRP/URS is expensive, if the rights holder could not find whether the domain name owner is a legal rights holder or not, the rights holder may lack of interest to make a move for UDRP/URS.</div><div class="">2. ICANN's obey to GDPR is a very very bad example; tells the whole world that a nation's law can make ICANN to change its rule with a threatening high tickets. I would not be surprise that if some other country use some local law to force ICANN to change the rule they don't like in future.</div><div class="">3. The interim specification is ridiculous by put GDPR as a part of regulation. There are 200 countries in the world, and all of them may propose some local laws to protect the interest or fundamental rights of their citizens. Should ICANN add all those law in the article 4.2 of the interim regulation? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will keep my research in this areas, and maybe next time I will try to give an article in english to further the discussion in this topic with NCUC members.</div><br class=""><div style="position: relative; zoom: 1;" class="">--<br class=""><div class="">Zhou Heng</div><div class="">Ph.d Candidate</div><div class="">Renmin University of China</div><div style="clear: both;" class=""></div></div><br class="">在 2018-06-16 05:44:10，"Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>> 写道：<br class=""><blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: DengXian; text-align: justify;" class="">Would urge you all to read this.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: DengXian; text-align: justify;" class=""><a href="https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/06/15/lets-talk-about-whois-accreditation-before-its-too-late/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/06/15/lets-talk-about-whois-accreditation-before-its-too-late/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: DengXian; text-align: justify;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: DengXian; text-align: justify;" class="">Dr. Milton Mueller<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: DengXian; text-align: justify;" class="">Professor, School of Public Policy<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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