<div dir="ltr">Thanks. Consultant and RA are two different things, but it would still be worthwhile to inquire about that and see if anything good came out of it. <div><br></div><div>Best,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:15 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Yes this was actually a pilot program, and we declined to participate. I don't think it is actually funding per se, it is the use of a research assistant that ICANN has procured (I am not sure how). Supervision
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<div>I think your second idea Ayden is interesting as well, but given deadlines now it might be worthwhile to flesh it out more for a next round (hopefully before next year, but I suppose not...?) I think that we would need actual examples of research or advocacy
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<div>ICANN Org is receiving additional Budget Requests until Jan 15th. Therefore NCUC Leadership would like to welcome your suggestions and ideas on possible submissions. <br>
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<div>Given that the deadline for submission to ICANN is 15th Jan, <b>we would like to set an internal deadline for constituency discussion/receiving of proposals until the 14th Jan, noon (utc). I would also welcome any volunteers to help drafting requests. </b><br>
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<div><span>Last but not least, for ease of reference, all the FY19 Approved <span>ABRs</span> are uploaded here: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/zodHBQ" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/zodHBQ</a><br>
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