<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes, Stephanie, you captured my point with regards to the dual leadership roles that is allowed in the bylaws. Which we hope by default will encourage more participation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:31 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Yes any bylaw change
discussion would be really to address the anomaly of twin
leadership roles, in both constituencies. I think that is
perhaps what Nadira meant, that the goal should be to ensure a
person did not hold down two roles, allowing more people to
participate.<br>
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<div class="m_5238362361675051037moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-10-10 19:27, Rafik Dammak
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<div>I don't think there is a specific problem here to get
new members to get into leadership. If you check the
candidates for the election, you can find most of them
joined NCUC in the last 3 years or more recently. It is
not a bylaws problem as it already set a term limit, for
example, enabling the regular renewal of leadership (if
you check the leadership for the last years, you can see
a lot of changes and new faces). In the end, it is about
encouraging more people to get involved, participate
actively and be ready to run for positions by
preparation and getting experience and that is not a
bylaw or procedural issue. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Le jeu. 11 oct. 2018 à 06:39, Nadira Alaraj
<<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com" target="_blank">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a>> a
écrit :<br>
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<div>This email thread raises an important issue that I
find contradicting to what the </div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">NCUC/NCSG/NPOC</span> communities
preaches. The tremendous efforts in capacity building
programs and outreach to bringing new members to
contribute to the policy work and leadership roles at
the same time the stated bylaws doesn't help on this
regards.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Tapani for pointing that the
bylaws does allows that. I think it might be that
these bylaws were put at the time when there were few
volunteers. But now the community is growing, hence
there is need to revisit these bylaws to encourage new
members to get into the leadership roles as an
incentive to their actual contributions to the
community work whether it is in policy or on
managerial work. <br>
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I suggest to add this suggestion on the agenda for
discussion at ICANN 63 meeting.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Best wishes </div>
<div dir="auto">Nadira </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 22:31 Tapani
Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This
discussion has become a bit weird. After all:<br>
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* There's nothing in any bylaws or charters
against being in NCUC EC<br>
and NPOC EC at the same time.<br>
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* There's no inherent conflict of interest between
NCUC and NPOC, and<br>
should there be such in some individual case,
David presumably will<br>
recuse himself.<br>
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* David make his plan perfectly clear before the
election, voters knew<br>
it and voted him in.<br>
<br>
Admittedly this is a completely new situation, and
it is an open<br>
question how well it will work, but NCUC members
have chosen to let<br>
David try it. If it does cause problems, by all
means let's fix them,<br>
but I find it odd people are saying we should try
to prevent this<br>
situation from reoccurring before we've seen how
it works out now.<br>
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As for travel slots, I would find it inappropriate
if David were to<br>
declare he'll only accept them from one
constituency. Whatever he<br>
does, he should treat NCUC and NPOC as equally as
possible. Of course<br>
this situation calls for more cooperation and
coordination between<br>
NCUC and NPOC ECs than before, but I don't think
that's a bad<br>
thing.<br>
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-- <br>
Tapani Tarvainen<br>
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