<div dir="auto">Thanks Farzaneh<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think you are point here. May be could do soul searching and decide on which platform / Constituencies to stick with.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I respect Dave but I do not think accepting the nomination is ideal unless he wants to relinquish the current position, which is matter of good corperate practice.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> It's not healthy and I hope he will receive your counsel in good light.</div><div dir="auto">Best</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 8:32 p.m. farzaneh badii, <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <u></u>        <div style="word-wrap:normal;word-break:break-word">   <table class="m_-2545204013279347859container" lang="container" dir="ltr" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" valign="top" style="width:100%"> <tr> <td valign="top" class="m_-2545204013279347859message-wrapper" style="color:#222;font-family:arial,sans-serif">  <div>Dear David</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate that you are transparent about being a member of NPOC EC. Although we do not have any rule against constituencies leaders running for other constituencies leadership, I think it sets a bad precedent.  I believe this is not a healthy practice for us. There is no problem if you have moved on to NPOC and are in a leadership position. But accepting a nomination to be a part of NCUC leadership at the same time without resignation from the other constituency leadership is bad practice in my opinion which hampers the independence of both constituencies. Yes it's great to cooperate. But  competing for a leadership position at one constituency while holding a leadership position in another is not recommendable.  I am just weighing in as an NCUC member. I do not recommend running should you not want to resign from NPOC leadership. </div><div><br></div><div>Best </div><div><br></div><div>Farzaneh </div><img align="left" width="0" height="0" style="border:0;width:0px;height:0px" src="https://track.mixmax.com/api/track/v2/h9NxnuoetnH9nXQmz/ISbvNmLslWYtdGQplGZhJmLoVmbhpnchZmI/IyZy9mLjV3Yu5yc0NXasB0czV3YzlGZtMWdj5mI/IyczV3YzlGZtMUVD5kI?sc=false" alt="">  </td> </tr> </table> <div> <div> <p><br></p> <div class="gmail_extra"> <p><br></p> <div class="gmail_quote"> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 2:33 PM, David Cake <span dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:dave@davecake.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dave@davecake.net</a></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <u></u> This nomination places me in an unusual position, as I am currently an office holder in NPOC, and the terms would significantly overlap. And this nomination came as something of a surprise. <div><br><div>In general, I think there are many positives, I very much believe the two constituencies need to learn to work in a complementary fashion, and there should be more cross-membership and coordination. But I acknowledge that may not be a universal position, and there are other issues to consider. </div><div>I’ve come to the conclusion that there are some people who are keen for me to run for good reasons, and I should let the voters decide. </div><div><br></div><div>I accept the nomination. </div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 40px"><div>On 6 Sep 2018, at 12:30 pm, Hakikur Rahman <<a href="mailto:email@hakik.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">email@hakik.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">I also support the nomination of David Cake.</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Best Regards,</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Hakikur Rahman</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">At 02:03 AM 9/5/2018, Robin Gross wrote:</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" type="cite">I also support the nomination of David Cake to the NCUC Executive Committee (Asia-Pacific region).  David brings an in-depth knowledge base to a relatively new EC, both in terms of substantive knowledge of the human rights implications of proposed DNS policies and also in the ICANN structure specifically, where he has been a community leader for more than a decade. <span> </span><br><br>Best,<br>Robin<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 40px">On Sep 4, 2018, at 3:30 AM, KASWESHA <<a href="mailto:kaswesha@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kaswesha@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>Hello comrades.<br>       I trust all is well with everyone of us. As the current nominations are going on I would like to nominate our long time friend and colleague Mr. David Cake as Asia-Pacific representative. we all know David and I am sure he is capable of performing all important EC task owing to the fact that he have a long time experience in the constituency.<br><br>I trust this time round David you will accept my nomination and you will get support from the rest of the members.<br><br>Best regards;    <span> </span><br><br><br>James Njoroge Gitau<br><br><b>Cell-Phone +254 722 212171 or +254 721 274273</b><br><br>Before printing this mail make sure it is completely necessary. THE ENVIRONMENT IS EVERY ONE'S BUSINESS.<br><br><br><br>On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:49 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><dl><dd>Dear all,<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd>This is just a reminder that the nominations period of NCUC elections started today and nominations will be accepted until sep. 17th.<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd><font face="arial">The available positions are:<span> </span></font><br></dd><dd><font face="arial">NCUC Chair<span> </span>- vacant (Renata resigned Aug 29 and is not running again)<span> </span><br></font><br></dd><dd>EC Africa<span> </span>- Ines Hfaiedh (eligible for another term)<span> </span><br></dd><dd>EC Asia Pacific<span> </span>- Elsa Saade (not running again)<span> </span><br></dd><dd>EC Europe<span> </span>- Louise Marie Hurel (eligible for another term)<br></dd><dd>EC Latin America and the Caribbean<span> </span>- Bruna Santos (eligible for another term)<span> </span><br></dd><dd>EC North America<span> </span>- Michael Karanicolas  (eligible for another term)<br><br></dd><dd>All nominated candidates have until 18 sep. to<span> </span>accept their nominations and, in that case they should submit their candidate statements until 19 Sep.<br><br></dd><dd>Best,<br></dd><dd>Bruna<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br></dd><dd>From: Bruna Martins dos Santos<span> </span><<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a><span> </span>><br></dd><dd>Date: sex, 31 de ago de 2018 Ã s 17:16<br></dd><dd>Subject: NCUC Elections - Nominations period starts Monday (3 Sept)!<br></dd><dd>To: NCUC Discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span> </span>ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br><br><br></dd><dd>Dear all,<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd>We have initiated our elections period, and as per the timeline below, our nomination period starts next monday, 03 September.<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd>17 Aug Check in begins<br></dd><dd>03 Sep Nomination period begins<span> </span><br></dd><dd>17 SepNomination period ends<span> </span><br></dd><dd>18 SepDeadline for nomination acceptance<span> </span><br></dd><dd>19 SepDeadline for candidate statements<span> </span><br></dd><dd>19 SepCheck in ends<span> </span><br></dd><dd>20/21 Sep Candidate Call<br></dd><dd>24 SepVoting begins<span> </span><br></dd><dd>08 OctVoting ends<span> </span><br></dd><dd>09 Oct Results announced<br><font face="arial"><br></font></dd><dd><font face="arial">Until monday we  will be concluding checkin to with some of the recently joined members who were not able to check in for NCSG elections but are eligible for check in now (as some may have the 30 day minimum membership time since joining the Stakeholder Group).<span> </span><br><br></font></dd><dd><font face="arial">As a reminder, starting monday until 17 september<span> </span>you will be able to nominate candidates for NCUC Chair and NCUC EC regional representatives.<span> </span><br><br></font></dd><dd><font face="arial">Please join the debate!<span> </span><br><br></font></dd><dd><font face="arial">best,<span> </span><br></font><br></dd><dd>--<span> </span><br></dd><dd>Bruna Martins dos Santos<span> </span><br><br></dd><dd>Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br></dd><dd>@boomartins<br></dd><dd>_______________________________________________<br></dd><dd>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br></dd><dd><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br></dd><dd><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br><br></dd></dl>_______________________________________________<br>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________ Ncuc-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></blockquote><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></div></blockquote></div><br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