<div dir="ltr">Thank you Ayden,<div><br></div><div>Since you can view the document, you can still post your comments to the pen holders and the NCUC chair for collation.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope you are able to make your valuable contributions on time.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Caleb</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Caleb,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have repeatedly pressed that button in Google Docs for two weeks now, and have not been granted access to edit the document. Are only fellows being permitted to edit the document? Are these the only contributions being sought?<br></div><div><br></div><div>The gist of my remarks - which you refer to as my 'perception', and I suppose it is, but I think it is an informed perception - was that in a consultation where we are being asked 19 questions, we have responded to five of the questions, and ignored the other 14. Of the five questions that do have responses, I believe our response falls short of the standard of other comments that the NCSG/NCUC/NPOC have previously submitted.<br></div><div><br></div><div>While I have not been an ICANN fellow, I did take the pen on more than half of our public comments last year and would like to think that I have a bit of an idea as to how to write one. It is my view that it is always helpful to respond to the (direct) questions being asked.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden Férdeline <br></div><div class="m_-7515616437756542461protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-7515616437756542461protonmail_signature_block-proton m_-7515616437756542461protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div> On April 5, 2018 1:36 PM, caleb olumuyiwa <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-7515616437756542461protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Ayden,<br></div><div><br></div><div>You can still make some contribution to the document if you request for access. Your contributions are vital and I believe in the multistakeholder process of consultation.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Despite your perception about the suitability, it is rather vital to have your inputs to represent the community stance while we still can.<br></div><div><br></div><div>See below a request for access to the document you can make.<br></div><div>Thank you<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><img class="m_-7515616437756542461proton-embedded" id="m_-7515616437756542461exifviewer-img-9" src="cid:ii_jfmfuum70_162959296ddc7de1" height="285" width="507"><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Renata,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Thank you for your message.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I disagree that there have been "many interventions" to this document. The Google Doc is in read-only mode, and I was not granted edit access, so I have not been able to share my contributions to the proposed text.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Of the 13 pages, 9 pages are copied and pasted from other sources and do not relate to the questionnaire at hand. Of the 19 questions we have been asked to answer, most (14) have not been responded to, and those 5 with answers seem under-developed.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> We have already received one extension. This questionnaire was circulated on the NCSG list in January, and I do not believe the text that I see in the Google Doc today represents the view of the broader NCUC membership. I think it would be inappropriate for the EC to submit this, given the document has not been open to all members to edit, that the text is not final, and responses are not offered to a majority of the 19 questions being asked.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> A fortnight ago I requested, very modestly, that the membership have at least 24 hours to review the final text before the EC considers endorsing and submitting it. I am disappointed that this will not be the case. This is not how we used to work.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I respectfully suggest that this response is under-developed and not suitable for submission on behalf of the NCUC. This is not a criticism of anyone (I thank those who have worked on this document), it is just the reality that we can't meet the deadline.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Kind regards,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> <span class="m_-7515616437756542461im m_-7515616437756542461HOEnZb"><br> On April 5, 2018 1:14 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > <br> ><br> > Hi Ayden<br> ><br> > Yes, the deadline is 6th April.<br> ><br> > I'll send the document today to the EC.<br> ><br> > There are 13 pages on the document with many interventions.<br> ><br> > I will try to get an extra extension for this comment but seems unlikely.<br> ><br> > Best,<br> ><br> > Renata<br> ><br> </span></div><div class="m_-7515616437756542461HOEnZb"><div class="m_-7515616437756542461h5"><div>> Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > <a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin<wbr>/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div> Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin<wbr>/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div class="m_-7515616437756542461gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><span style="font-size:18px" class="m_-7515616437756542461size"><span style="color:#33ccff" class="m_-7515616437756542461colour">Ogundele Olumuyiwa Caleb</span></span></b><br></div><div><span style="color:#993300" class="m_-7515616437756542461colour"><i><b><a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a></b></i></span><br></div><div><i><b><span style="color:#666666" class="m_-7515616437756542461colour">234 - 8077377378</span></b></i><br></div><div><i><b><span style="color:#666666" class="m_-7515616437756542461colour">234 - 07030777969</span></b></i><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b><font size="4" color="#33ccff">Ogundele Olumuyiwa Caleb</font></b><div><font color="#993300"><i><b><a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a></b></i></font></div><div><i><b><font color="#666666">234 - 8077377378</font></b></i></div><div><i><b><font color="#666666">234 - 07030777969</font></b></i></div></div></div>
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