<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I fully support implementation of the NCUC policy course, I believe thT if it is interactive enough for online partcipants then it can still be done within ICANN meetings.</div><div><br></div><div>Now if we attempt to measure or compare levels of attendance and participation for onsite vs online meetings options, below is my analysis:</div><div><br></div><div>Onsite-onsite participants will benefit more and online participants might not be able to effectively interact, although the transfer of knowledge can still be achieved. Onsite meetings also provide a good opportunity to practice not only learn.</div><div><br></div><div>Online-all participants have equal footing but might also limit participation as some may have connectivity issues. Online meetings have work well previously, especially if the agenda/cirricular is engaging and comprehensive for actionability.</div><div><br></div><div>The last option could be having these courses over 6-10 ICANN Meetings at minimum as it will strengthen NCUC to effectively engage in PDP prominimu within ICANN. This can be complemented by online courses to accomodate those who annot attend for whatever reason. Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thato Mfikwe.</div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 03/01/2018 09:49 (GMT+02:00) </div><div>To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> </div><div>Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino@gmail.com>, NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date change </div><div><br></div></div>This is a valid point as raised by Ayden and i do agree with him on the effectiveness of this program if it has to happen during the actual meeting.<div><br></div><div>@Renata, can you please let us know more on why this has changed? What are the reasons behind this important change?</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe this will help us understand the rationale and suggest way forward.<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div>-----------------</div><div>Arsène Tungali,</div><div><a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali">about.me/ArseneTungali</a></div><div>+243 993810967</div><div>GPG: 523644A0</div><div>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)</div><div><br>On Jan 3, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Thanks, Renata.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If I may speak freely for a moment, I find this change to be counter-intuitive.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The purpose of this course was to upskill our members so that they can engage more deeply in our policy work.<br></div><div><br></div><div>One part is, yes, knowing how to write a comment, and that is what this course seeks to address — but it's hard to write a comment on an issue that one is not tracking closely. We generally track issues by attending their face-to-face (and online) meetings and participating in the deliberations based upon our own analysis of discussions and source material.<br></div><div><br></div><div>In asking people to participate in this course DURING the ICANN meeting, we are asking that they not attend Working Group sessions and others where 'real' policy work is taking place. It diminishes our presence at the ICANN meeting, as those NCUC members who participate in this course will not be in sessions asking questions and contributing to discussions, speaking professionally and intelligently on behalf of the NCUC.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If this change was the result of a staff request, I hope that it can be re-considered. The leadership course in San Juan, for instance, is being appropriately held as a pre-event.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Policy Course date change<br></div><div>Local Time: 2 January 2018 9:33 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 2 January 2018 20:33<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>To: NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Dear members<br></div><div> <br></div><div> We had a change in the NCUC Policy Course.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> It won't be previous to ICANN meeting anymore but during meeting days.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> So those who applied for extra funding for this, it won't be needed<br></div><div> anymore because the course will be during the ICANN meeting.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> As soon as the final date is ascertained, we'll let you know.<br></div><div> We'll also know by them number of participants and criteria for choosing them.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> The online version of this course will be open to all, no need to apply.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Thanks<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Renata<br></div></div><div><hr><br></div><div><div>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>