<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi guys,</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>In the hope of helping addressing this concerns, I’ve gathered a few links of material on the fellowship already public. I understand they are updating some things, like the privacy provision in the Terms and web stuff.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Some metrics of the last 10 yeas can be found in the 2017 survey report as well. And I am confident that we could gather a questioner for the staff to answer, and eventually a letter of recommendations or comments. This could help level the information and clarify doubts, a good way to structure the issue and put forward an concrete action.</div><div class=""><br class="">Fellowship main page: <a href="https://www.icann.org/fellowshipprogram" class="">https://www.icann.org/fellowshipprogram</a></div><div class="">Terms: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/terms-conditions-2012-02-25-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/terms-conditions-2012-02-25-en</a></div><div class="">Selection criteria: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-applicant-criteria-2016-09-08-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-applicant-criteria-2016-09-08-en</a></div><div class="">Selection Committee: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/committee-2012-02-25-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/committee-2012-02-25-en</a></div><div class="">FAQs: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-faqs-2015-07-10-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-faqs-2015-07-10-en</a></div><div class="">10 yeas survey report: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/icann-fellowship-program-10-year-survey-dprd-28jun17-en.pdf" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/icann-fellowship-program-10-year-survey-dprd-28jun17-en.pdf</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Other part also might have some relevant data (you need to dive in a little to grasp the numbers):</div><div class="">Financial reports: <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/current-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/current-en</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There were some blog post as well:</div><div class="">Part 1: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-part-one-of-a-four-part-blog-series" class="">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-part-one-of-a-four-part-blog-series</a></div><div class="">Part 2: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit" class="">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit</a></div><div class="">Part 3: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-en" class="">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-en</a></div><div class="">Part 4: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-0edb9f60-6898-4121-a0e3-5865c9a4106d" class="">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-fellowship-spirit-0edb9f60-6898-4121-a0e3-5865c9a4106d</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I’ve seen many times around that a lot of the concerns on the fellowship are actually misinformation, weather the facts are not known or are wrong. And is very easy to build on those mistakes or half/trues to later find out the whole analysis has to be rebuilt, or becomes and ineffective action. So I would suggest we first try to scope the data on this, level our concepts so we can define concerns and eventually give an opinion.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For instance, in evaluating the merit of the program we have to understand the initial goal, there is no use in assuming or improvising the goal of the program, is written and when measuring the success we should go back to it. We can also discuss if the current goal, met or not and by how much, is the goal we think is best. Again, flying ideas without actually going through this process are not helpful. "Scaling back the program", something I’ve heard a lot and personally might even agree, is a valid idea, but we should only recommend it if we fully understand the whole data and concepts, not just because we “feel” it, we have a strong intuition or it seems reasonable given what we know from other stuff.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I volunteer to lead a group to review fellowship and other onboarding/outreach/capacity building programs, if that’s what NCUC/NCSG members are interested. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers to all,</div><div class="">Martin Silva</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" class="">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Another interesting document to read is from a few years ago when they asked for community feedback and they did a comparison to other fellowship program<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not sure where it is.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As to the privacy stuff. I assume Siranush is still getting used to the job and and she will work out these issues in due time. <br class=""><br class=""><div class="">G</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Glenn McKnight</div><div dir="ltr" class="">NARALO Secretariat<br class=""><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br class="">skype gmcknight<br class="">twitter gmcknight</div><div class="">289-830 6259<br class="">.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Chenai Chair <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:chrche001@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">chrche001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks Glenn! super useful to read this and reflect on the fellowship process</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Glenn McKnight <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Here is the Fellowship survey I converted to a Ebook<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><a href="http://online.fliphtml5.com/gnel/jjgd/" target="_blank" class="">http://online.fliphtml5.com/gn<wbr class="">el/jjgd/</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">G</div><span class="m_4109406377847574174HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_4109406377847574174HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="m_4109406377847574174m_8476407003265066693gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Glenn McKnight</div><div dir="ltr" class="">NARALO Secretariat<br class=""><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br class="">skype gmcknight<br class="">twitter gmcknight</div><div class=""><a href="tel:(289)%20830-6259" value="+12898306259" target="_blank" class="">289-830 6259</a><br class="">.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></font></span><div class=""><div class="m_4109406377847574174h5">
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rayamajhishreedeep@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">rayamajhishreedeep@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">I think there should be some level of privacy to be attained in regards while handling personal information. People do give their information with trust and it should be handled with care in terms of the after the purposes is finished. It should be the responsibility of the receiver to assure there is no unauthorized use of the information. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">May be a process has to be initiated that after the completion of the purpose the information is stopped from passing on. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Regards </div><span class="m_4109406377847574174m_8476407003265066693HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Shreedeep Rayamajhi</div></font></span><div class=""><div class="m_4109406377847574174m_8476407003265066693h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2017 5:41 PM, "thomascovenant" <<a href="mailto:thomascovenant@thomascovenant.org" target="_blank" class="">thomascovenant@thomascovenant<wbr class="">.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Ayden,<br class="">
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> And I have noted programmes, such as the global indigenous ambassador<br class="">
> programme, have their application form on a Google Form<br class="">
<br class="">
- You are correct. I have just joined the Indigenous Program and we will<br class="">
address this by the next application round.<br class="">
<br class="">
+1 on other points made<br class="">
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Great meeting you in person during ICANN60,<br class="">
<br class="">
thomas<br class="">
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--<br class="">
Jalkanen Dina Solveig<br class="">
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Friendly geek in Amsterdam, happy FSFE and EFF member<br class="">
<a href="https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/User:Thomascovenant" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.<wbr class="">php/User:Thomascovenant</a><br class="">
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On 08.11.2017 11:02, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br class="">
> I think it is reasonable to say that ICANN, as an organisation, has no<br class="">
> awareness of privacy or why it is important.<br class="">
><br class="">
> Indeed, the recently appointed Chief Data Protection Officer has no<br class="">
> background in privacy or data protection. (Seriously.)<br class="">
><br class="">
> And I have noted programmes, such as the global indigenous ambassador<br class="">
> programme, have their application form on a Google Form where one can<br class="">
> even read all of the candidate's applications, including the candidate's<br class="">
> address, if they so desire.<br class="">
><br class="">
> None of this is acceptable Dina, and I would encourage you to write to<br class="">
> the CDPO, Daniel Halloran, to document this incident.<br class="">
><br class="">
> We will have more recourses at our disposal from next May when<br class="">
> enforcement of GDPR is in effect to take this complaint further, but for<br class="">
> now, it is important we can show that we have been repeatedly making<br class="">
> ICANN the organisation aware of its failure to protect the personal data<br class="">
> that it collects and retains. <br class="">
><br class="">
> —Ayden<br class="">
><br class="">
><br class="">
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>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Privacy issues within Fellowship Program<br class="">
>> Local Time: 8 November 2017 8:25 AM<br class="">
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>> From: <a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">raquino@gmail.com</a><br class="">
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>> Hi<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> The leakage of private information is indeed an issue.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I was in an associated program w/ the Fellowship this time so did not<br class="">
>> get the email that Dina mentioned.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I remember in previous editions of Fellowship program, I discussed<br class="">
>> basic privacy configurations - like telling people how to protect an<br class="">
>> online Google Spreadsheet. So there is a lack also of staff, tools and<br class="">
>> other provisions to protect managing fellows' data.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I think we need to go via an educational route here.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> This is an international group, fastly organized and disorganized and<br class="">
>> it may as well be that fellows have their own data gathering<br class="">
>> initiatives for social purposes or whatever.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> The idea of a workshop or a discussion about privacy sounds like a<br class="">
>> good route.<br class="">
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>> Best,<br class="">
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>> Renata<br class="">
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