<div dir="auto">Hello Farzaneh,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">FWIW, I do not intend to discredit anyone. I was specifically responding to the part about social media and also referring to the travel matrix as DG specifically responded to wisdom.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anyway you and DG are right that I didn't read the first mail in this thread (my apologies for that). Having now read it I see the issue is not in the data collected because it's obvious they are required. It's rather in sharing the data in an Excel sheet. This to me should and can be resolved easily.<br><br>Overall the fellowship has been a very great resource, to the extent possible let's not over blow this unnecessarily. It's good you are looking into resolving this already and I add my +1 to that.</div><div dir="auto"><br>Regards<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2017 7:23 AM, "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default">Dear Seun,</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Unfortunately, you are weighing in on this issue while you do not recall completely the events nor what information they gather. This way you intentionally or unintentionally discredit what others say. It is not fair to them, it does not solve the issue. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">They gather the home address, passport no. etc in the beginning when you apply for fellowship. How else would they have been able to send you that fellowship certificate? I know that for a fact and it is recent information.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">We need to address this problem. I have raised it before privately, will follow up on it to get it fixed. Please do not imply that anyone is misinforming anyone else here. It is an existing problem we have and such comments do not make the situation any better. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8933851664774742293gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></span><span><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 7, 2017 11:54 PM, "dorothy g" <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Wow I am truly shocked by the lack of awareness. Sharing home addresses? Why do they even have these? It is so dangerous.</div></blockquote></div></div></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: I sure can't remember them asking for home address. If I recall correctly, I think the matrix contains hotel location/name and this is just to find one another at the event. Ofcourse most of the time fellows are at the same location.</div><span><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> This issue seriously needs to be addressed. Maybe if we can think this through we can help others get round the platform oligarchs. Privacy training needed urgently.<div>+1 to those who will address this head on. I kind of remember the issue came up before when people were made to understand they had no option but to join a social media platform if they wanted to be part of the program. If I recall at the time we were given some plausible explanation.</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">SO: At that time it was indeed clarifed and I think social media was then made optional.</div><span><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Wisdom I do not like your logic on this one but since we live in the same town (not specified deliberately) we can sort it out F2F. <br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">SO: Actually am with wisdom on this, as I don't actually see the privacy issues here. Espcially when all these are optional. This is just like signing up to the free Gmail account and not expecting to be crawled by Google server. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div><div class="m_8933851664774742293h5"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>best</div><font color="#888888"><div>D</div></font></div></div><div class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wisdom.dk@gmail.com" target="_blank">wisdom.dk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In agreement with Seun. Joining fellowship social pages are optional, is not compulsory or mandatory.<div>I do recall in some instances when fellows are been ask to sign up for ICANN booth or travel matrix etc I remember in some cases the privacy option is been capture when signing up.</div><div><br></div><div>Most of us i think are very much aware of basic privacy issues, every one you see on the fellowship social platform, i believe has consented to been on the platform.</div><div> </div><div>I no few fellows who opt not to be on the fellowship social platform and as such decline the request and that decision was respected. In any case one can opt out if already in or request to be taken off.</div><div><br></div><div>I think the fellowship program has relied on social media because of its outreach nature (connecting the next billion).</div><div><br></div><div>I believe we should think more of the positive that the social media brings to the fellowship program. Any attempt to restrict the use of social media will pull us back and back. We can regulate it but not to the point that will diminish the positives <span style="font-size:15px">of the fellowship program. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:15px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:15px">Best,</span></div><div><br></div><div>Any innovative way to encourage the use of the fellowship platform should be welcome. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><i><b>ONE WORLD ONE INTERNET</b></i></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8px"><blockquote type="cite"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><b>WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)</b><br></div><div style="font-size:small">E-government and Open Government Data Platforms Specialist</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_8933851664774742293m_499599730733798537m_-4461169944907933715h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a>seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hello,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If I recall correctly, I don't think ICANN flicker site requires login details.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As to the fellowship Facebook, WhatsApp et all I do think those are optional hence it should be expected that anyone that opts in do so voluntarily.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ofcourse I am speaking as an alumni hence some things may have changed lately.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 7, 2017 4:47 PM, "Stephanie Perrin" <<a>stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Dina</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I totally agree with
you and Cedric, and suggest you file a complaint to the new ICANN
privacy officer. Happy to help draft it!</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS I had already
complained to ICANN years ago that they should not be using
the outlet they use for posting their professional photos of
ICANN meetings, as it demanded you join and provide a
cellphone number. Unacceptable. (Unfortunately, I cannot
remember what app they were using, nor can I find it on the
site with a couple of quick searches.)</font></font><br>
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Thomas, I support your indignation and recommendation.
And relying on tools such as Facebook and WhatsApp shows how inexcusably
unaware of privacy issues the organizers of that Fellowship Program are.
Cédric
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I want to point out an issue that is important to me: privacy.
Today the Fellowship Program sent out an email containing an attachment
with coaches' and fellows' private details: name, surname, home address
and phone number.
I see this as gross privacy violation.
I have not given my consent to share my personal details - I expect
every single person on the list to be asked for permission before doing
that. I expect to know exactly who these details will be shared with.
During this round, program has heavily relied on Facebook, Whatsapp
(owned by Facebook) and Google.
I am extremely frustrated by lack of basic privacy awareness within the
Fellowship Program.
I will follow up with TTF to propose an online privacy workshop for
those in charge of the Program, together with the request to review
tools and how fellows' information can be stored and handled in a secure
way.
Respecting privacy of others on this list,
thomas / Dina Solveig Jalkanen
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