<div dir="ltr">Hi Milton,<div><br></div><div>I like how the Statement read now. I was just wondering in relation to the last paragraph whether there is any<span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap"> chance, where we are making the call for ICANN to adopt a precise and narrow definition, that we somehow phrase it in a manner to say that ICANN only deals with a specific range of domain abuse. I know it almost sounds like the same thing but what I am thinking is that it does not take away from others perceptions of abuse but where ICANN can clearly spell out those which it is bound to deal with.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">Many thanks for holding the pen. Appreciate the work put into the statement.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">Kind Regards,</span></div><div><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.870588);font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">Sala</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">One commenter suggested that we make it a NCSG statement not just a NCUC statement. That is fine with me, but best to take a two-step process and start with NCUC
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fwd: [call for comment] NCUC Statement on Domain Abuse and the Avoidance of Content Regulation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Firstly, thank you Milton for drafting the initial draft statement;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
I have incorporated comments within the Draft and also read others comments and draft revisions to the original statement;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
In summary, noting that within ICANN, there has been debate on what constitutes domain abuse and where there are two sides of the fence where on one hand you have people advocating for taking down a domain that has any hint of misbehavior and the other side
who feel that Registries and Registrars have no responsibility towards a clean domain space.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
Domain abuse by the most common definition means domains registered for phishing, malware, botnets and domains advertised in spam. Most countries and jurisdictions declare these as illegal and harmful.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
There have been other internet stakeholders that consider other types of domain misuse just as abusive and illegal. Some examples include intellectual property infringement, copyright, trademark violations and certain types of what people may perceive to be
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In my personal opinion, abuse causes well defined harm to many organizations and individuals including Registries and Registrars. Consider the abuse of domain names to commit fraud during times of escalated crisis, where fake red cross domains soliciting donations
aside from the spam that exploits one of the Pacific ccTLDs, ".pw" and a host of other "abuse examples"<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
In Europe, with domain name abuse related to ".eu", there are ADR Mechanisms aside not prejudicing the rights of EU Nationals to seek redress through the Courts.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
Spam is not less harmful than other forms of abuse since it is used to propagate phishing and malware sites threatening the security and not to mention at great economic cost to countries and to the average end user. Countries from least developed communities
(LDCs) are severely impacted cost-wise and access wise.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
The Global Consumer Research 2015 study which looked at 6144 consumer responses revealed that 74% highlighted phishing, 79% highlighted spamming and 40% highlighted cybersquatting.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
Whilst from inception, Registries and Registrars traditionally did not include within their contractual obligations to mitigate abuse.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
Calls from the end users and regulators across different jurisdictions have shaped and influenced the evolution and push to bringing more accountability primarily amongst the Registrars and Registries.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
I believe that a key component is reducing the time to harm and removing the domain from the DNS as soon as reasonably possible once it is identified as harmful.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
The <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registries/registries-agreements-en" target="_blank">
2017 Base Registry Agreement </a>has provisions which say, <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
"Registry Operator <u>shall take reasonable steps</u> to <u>investigate and respond</u> to any reports from law enforcement and governmental and quasi-governmental agencies of illegal conduct in connection with the use of the TLD. In responding to such reports,
Registry Operator will not be required to take any action in contravention of applicable law".</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In asking ICANN to define "Domain Abuse" we make it the Nexus which we are really trying to avoid when instead we let the community define what is Domain Abuse but what I suggest we do, is that in noting that ICANN
is just one player in the entire ecosystem, we push regulation to the fringes whilst encouraging ICANN to continue what it is doing which is to espouse the safe and responsible creation of domains and use of domains.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">These are additional thoughts to comments placed in the Statement that Milton drafted.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I wish you all well in Abu Dhabi.</span><u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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