<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Well said Fazi and Bill,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Having a meeting at the TRA premises will a promotional style of meetings. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:56 AM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi<div><br></div><div>If they will even take the meeting, I suppose you could try to ask them to explain the thinking behind their very hefty list of mind-boggling Internet restrictions, some of which are here <a href="https://www.tra.gov.ae/en/services-and-activities/internet-guidelines/details.aspx#pages-67183" target="_blank">https://www.tra.gov.ae/<wbr>en/services-and-activities/<wbr>internet-guidelines/details.<wbr>aspx#pages-67183</a>. But I suspect you wouldn’t get too far...</div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, if there’s room in the NCUC Constituency Day agenda, we could invite a rep to come meet with us to share their approach...</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><br><div id="m_-7146206092054123964AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 16, 2017, at 01:00, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sorry, but I don't understand why you would want to go and visit TRA. Do you want to visit the building? Have a chat with staff? There might be staff members at ICANN meeting as well. You could chat with them during the ICANN meeting. But I am still not clear on what the point of discussion would be. I am just a bit puzzled by the idea. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-7146206092054123964gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Alejandro Acosta <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com" target="_blank">alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.<wbr>com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
Depending on time and date I would also be interested.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
<br>
Alejandro,<br>
<br>
<br>
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El 15/10/17 a las 5:59 p.m., Michael Karanicolas escribió:<br>
<div class="m_-7146206092054123964HOEnZb"><div class="m_-7146206092054123964h5">> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I'd be interested - depending on who at the TRA they set us up with.<br>
><br>
> I don't necessarily see this as an opportunity to foster cooperation<br>
> with them - I'm pretty sure their fundamental approach to the internet<br>
> is incompatible with what a lot of us believe. But if there's an<br>
> opportunity to meet someone relatively senior - there's no harm in<br>
> working to communicate a message about the value of a free and open<br>
> Internet. Even if it's unlikely the change things, the conversation<br>
> can sometimes be helpful, and get them thinking about different<br>
> perspectives.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Michael<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 6:39 PM, thomascovenant<br>
> <<a href="mailto:thomascovenant@thomascovenant.org" target="_blank">thomascovenant@thomascovenant<wbr>.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Arsène,<br>
>><br>
>> short version: if TRA was to allow a visit, we could kindly request<br>
>> something specific.<br>
>> A short general overview could work too.<br>
>><br>
>> long version: Several people have asked me about ICANN location choices.<br>
>> I understand<br>
>> part of the diverse location is having a dialogue, cooperation within<br>
>> multistakeholders in different environments.<br>
>> In this context, I would find even a general TRA introduction<br>
>> informative and educational.<br>
>><br>
>> I know we will be busy, perhaps a small interested group might form.<br>
>><br>
>> Solidarity,<br>
>><br>
>> Dina Solveig Jalkanen<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> * * *<br>
>> Friendly geek in Amsterdam, happy FSFE and EFF member<br>
>> <a href="https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/User:Thomascovenant" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.<wbr>php/User:Thomascovenant</a><br>
>><br>
>> * My spelling auto-correct is upset with 'multistakeholder'<br>
>><br>
>> On 15.10.2017 18:03, Arsène Tungali wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Dina,<br>
>>><br>
>>> What would the visit be about? Is there something specific we are looking into seing there?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Please do let us know so we can decide and plan whether to join.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Arsene<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----------------<br>
>>> Arsène Tungali,<br>
>>> <a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">about.me/ArseneTungali</a><br>
>>> <a href="tel:%2B243%20993810967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><br>
>>> GPG: 523644A0<br>
>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)<br>
>>><br>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:05 PM, thomascovenant <<a href="mailto:thomascovenant@thomascovenant.org" target="_blank">thomascovenant@thomascovenant<wbr>.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> would anyone be interested in visiting TRA in Abu Dhabi?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.tra.gov.ae/en/about-tra/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tra.gov.ae/en/abou<wbr>t-tra/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think it might be possible for a small group to request this or kindly<br>
>>>> ask GAC Mohammad Alkhamis if he could pass the word along.<br>
>>>> What do you think?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Solidarity,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dina Solveig Jalkanens<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> * * *<br>
>>>> Friendly geek in Amsterdam, happy FSFE and EFF member<br>
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