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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft YaHei', 微软雅黑, SimSun, 宋体, sans-serif;">Dear James,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">It was sad that in April the communication between you and me was broken down by your cognition that my case with the former NCUC EC (2016-2017) was over and you thought that I should drop it
and go forward. I would certainly do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">You must see the following email that the Ombudsman had sent on 6th, July</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">, which stated that he had completed his further investigation
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">(@Herb, thanks so much for all of your energy and efforts for this case over the last one year.) </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">James, I would like to respond to your comment on 18</span><sup><span style="font-size: 11pt;">th</span></sup><span style="font-size: 11pt;">, April, 2017(see
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">This is my last comment to you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">I assume you may have been wrong from the start.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">During ICANN 59, I talked to ICANN staff who is responsible for the Security Framework Drafting Team (SFDT).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">ICANN staff confirmed with me that SDFT is not engaged on the level of RySG or RrSG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">SFDT is open to Registries, Registrars and GAC members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">RySG is not equated with registries, likewise RrSG is not equated with registrars.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Saying this, your claim that “</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial;">it
is clear that one cannot represent one stakeholder group on the EC while actively participating as part of the RySG on closed ICANN policy processes</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">” could not stand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Your complaint was based on an untenable assumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 21px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">It seems that you may have confusingly mixed the concepts of RySG and Registries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 21px;"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">In August 2015, I did participate in SFDT representing my organization—a registry, </span><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;">however, I did
not participated as part of the RySG</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;">. So I did not violate the NCUC Bylaws. Now please be noted this.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">The NCUC Bylaws does not include an article or a term that one individual could not participate in ICANN work representing his/her organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">The current effective NCUC Bylaws only mandated that “individuals are eligible only if they are not represented in ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO Stakeholder
Group”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">I myself--as an individual NCUC member--was not represented in ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO Stakeholder Group.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">I participated in SFDT representing my organization-a registry.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">SFDT is neither an ICANN Supporting Organization nor GNSO Stakeholder Group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">SFDT is NOT even a formal GNSO PDP Working Group. It is not binding to any parties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">There is nothing in the NCUC Bylaws that state that I could not participate in it representing my organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Another point that I would like to let you know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Herb had confirmed with me that Fabien did acknowledge that he neglected my email to him in early September, 2015, in which emails I asked Fabien if SFDT was only open to registries, registrars
and GAC members, whether I could participate representing NCUC, if not, then I may quit SDFT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Fabien neglected my email, and I did not get his reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">If I got his reply, things may be quite different.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">My name was still left on the web page of SFDT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">It was just because of that you took that as the evidence that I had been participating SFDT representing a registry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Anyway, I assumed that it is much difficult for me to change your cognition that I participated in SFDT representing a part of RySG.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Nothing could change your cognition on this matter. It is a pity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">It is still my view that the former NCUC EC(2016-2017) had not the power to request me to resign. Their request to ask me to resign was illegitimate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Recall that, in her email on 14th October, 2016, when discussing comments on revision of the NCUC Bylaws, Farzi did mention that “Questions: 1. Should the bylaws include the process of removal
of ncuc officers such as EC members and how?”(</span><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2016-October/019237.html" id="LPlnk606481" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2016-October/019237.html</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt;">)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">It was at that time that NCUC EC just started to discuss “[s]hould the [NCUC] bylaws include the process of removal of ncuc officers such as EC members and how?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">This is evidence that there is gap in the NCUC Bylaws in terms of removing an EC member.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">This is evidence that there is flaw in the NCUC Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">The EC’s action to ask me to resign was rushed and was not justified in accordance with NCUC Charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">By no means should I accept such an illegitimate EC request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">By no means could I accept the EC’s statement on their rushed action.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">By no means could I accept their apology for their rushed and illegitimate action.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, serif, EmojiFont;">Following up on emails posted to this list I have made further inquiries regarding the NCUC EC decision to request Zuan Zhang’s (Peter Green) resignation from the EC, in hopes to clarify
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, serif, EmojiFont;">I have made further inquiries with ICANN and determined that Zuan participated in the initial three meetings of the Security Framework Drafting Team but ceased participation when the question
of a conflict of interest was raised. He immediately attempted to determine with ICANN whether he could participate on the drafting team and be a member of the NCUC EC at the same time. I can confirm that Zuan contacted ICANN twice and requested a clarification
whether as a member of the NCUC EC he could participate on the drafting team. The email requests to ICANN went unanswered and as a result Zuan fully ceased participation at that point rather than place his status with the NCUC EC in jeopardy. Unfortunately,
Zuan’s name remained on the participation roster of volunteers for the working group despite his non-participation.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, serif, EmojiFont;">I hope this clears up any remaining confusion.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, serif, EmojiFont;">I sincerely, once again, wish to thank everyone for their cooperation in this investigation and would like to advise, with agreement from Zuan, that I now consider this complaint closed.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, serif, EmojiFont;">Respectfully yours,</span></p>
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<b>发送时间:</b> 2017年4月18日 23:26<br>
<b>收件人:</b> Herb Waye; ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org<br>
<b>抄送:</b> ombudsman<br>
<b>主题:</b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Statement from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) Complaint to Ombudsman</font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In the interests of transparency I need to out myself as one of the initial complainants, Peter was clearly operating within ICANN as a representative of CONAC representing a registry and not as stated
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“My organization CONAC is a member of RySG and two colleagues of mine are serving as representatives of CONAC in RySG. I was not listed as a representative of CONAC in RySG at that
time. The only fact is I am staff of CONAC”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This can be verified by visiting
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#333333; background:white">Zuan Zhang - China Organizational Name Administration Center (CONAC)”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#333333; background:white">listed under registries. Additionally this team was closed to all but contracted parties and the GAC as confirmed to me by Fabien from ICANN
staff.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">On 01/09/2015, 17:07, "Fabien Betremieux" <<a href="mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org">fabien.betremieux@icann.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>Hello James,</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>Members of the Framework Drafting Team are either representatives of
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>Registry Operator, Registrars or Governments (GAC/PSWG). We don¹t have
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>a specific observer status for other members of the community at this
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>point of our developments (which started only recently).</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>However, all developments of the Drafting Team are public. You will
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>find all available information on this workspace:</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+Framework+Hom">https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+Framework+Hom</a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>e</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>Let me know if you need any additional information.</p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">>Best Regards</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So as a complainant to the former EC on this matter it is clear that one cannot represent one stakeholder group on the EC while actively participating as part of the RySG on closed ICANN policy processes.
This is the clear difference vs Rafik for example. Also I will note Farzi serves as the formal NCUC liaison to the PIR advisory council, a position that comes with NCUC membership so I am not clear how an NCUC position could be considered in conflict with
the NCUC?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The former EC took the correct action here and has acted in a professional and integral manner, pointing out clearly the conflict of interest and asking Peter to resign which he did. I hope that everyone can
agree that this situation almost 1 year on should be left to close now with Peter confirming that going forward he will be representing the RySG.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">James</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Ncuc-discuss [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Herb Waye<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ombudsman <ombudsman@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] Statement from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) Complaint to Ombudsman</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find below a statement from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green). Attached is the initial request for his resignation and his response. This statement is in response to the statement posted by the former NCUC EC
on April 10, 2017. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Herb Waye</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN Ombudsman</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://www.icann.org/ombudsman">https://www.icann.org/ombudsman</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Twitter: @IcannOmbudsman</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/expected-standards-15sep16-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/expected-standards-15sep16-en.pdf</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017-03-24-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017-03-24-en</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All matters brought before the Ombudsman shall be treated as confidential. The Ombudsman shall also take all reasonable steps necessary to preserve the privacy of, and to avoid harm to, those parties not
involved in the complaint being investigated by the Ombudsman.The Ombudsman shall only make inquiries about, or advise staff or Board members of the existence and identity of, a complainant in order to further the resolution of the complaint. The Ombudsman
shall take all reasonable steps necessary to ensure that if staff and Board members are made aware of the existence and identity of a complainant, they agree to maintain the confidential nature of such information, except as necessary to further the resolution
of a complaint</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Comments from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) on Former EC's Statement</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear NCUCers,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From August, 2016 to April, 2017, it’s been 8 months since I took the case of the former NCUC EC’s decision to ask me to resign from office to the ICANN Ombudsman.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Time to speak.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I assume it is better to put all of the things on the table and would like to have the whole picture for our NCUC members to see the core of the case, the nature of the case.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 1<sup>st</sup>, August, 2016, I received a letter (please see the attached Email 1) from the former NCUC EC asking me to resign. In the letter, the EC came to the conclusions that I was not eligible to
be a NCUC member, I am a member of the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) and I actively participated in the work of RySG. Therefore, the EC decided to remove me from the office.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I replied to the former EC acknowledging my receipt of the letter. Then I was silent for a few days and went back to hometown for family affairs. When I returned to work, there were discussions going on in
the NCUC mailing list. I found that there were divergent views on my eligibility of being a NCUC member among many of our NCUC veterans, therefore I decided to take this case to the ICANN Ombudsman and I made it very clear that before the Ombudsman’s decision,
I would not take any action, hence long time silence (please see the attached Email 2).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">However, I could not imagine that the case had been going on for so long. There were several rounds of discussions among me, the Ombudsman and the former EC until Rafik published the former EC’s Statement
on Monday. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">After rounds of discussions, the former EC did not agree with some views of the Ombudsman. Therefore, the former EC released this Statement to clarify their action.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Below are my comments on the former EC’s Statement:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. Issue of My Eligibility of Being a NCUC Member.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I could not understand how the former EC had ever come to the conclusion that I was not eligible to be an NCUC member. I joined in NCSG/NCUC in March, 2013 as an individual member with registered domain names
(one of them was expired, currently holding an IDN domain name</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:SimSun">钻</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"MS Gothic"">我</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:SimSun">爱</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"MS Gothic"">你</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">,
xn--h84a.xn--6qq986b3xl)for non-commercial self-use in accordance with NCSG Charter and NCUC Bylaws. I could not see how I am not eligible to be an individual member of NCUC. However, the former EC claimed that I am a member of RySG. For your information,
RySG only consists of organizational members—registries. My organization CONAC is a member of RySG and two colleagues of mine are serving as representatives of CONAC in RySG. I was not listed as a representative of CONAC in RySG at that time. The only fact
is I am staff of CONAC. Does the fact that I am staff of CONAC and CONAC is a member of RySG mean that I am a member of RySG? That’s clearly not the case in accordance with the RySG Charter. If it is not that case, I could not see why the former EC came to
such a conclusion according to the NCUC Bylaws, if not with a preconceived notion that staff of a registry could be not individual members of NCUC, however, the NCUC Bylaws does not say so.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On the other hand, in the Statement the former EC also mentioned that “[the former EC’s] request for Peter to resign from the EC was not caused by any misconduct or poor performance on his part”, “[the former
EC’s] main concern has always been the integrity of the NCUC”, “[t]his is designed to prevent commercial or contracted parties from attempting to control or influence [NCUC] Constituency”. I do agree with maintaining the integrity of NCUC. If the former EC’s
decision to remove me was not due to my misconduct rather due to my relationship with CONAC and CONAC’s relationship with RySG, there are two other facts that deserve attention. Rafik now works for NTT Communications, a business company in Japan and Farzaneh
is serving as a member on the Advisory Council of .org registry—PIR—a registry. According to the circumstances of my case, in order to preserve the integrity of NCUC and prevent commercial or contracted parties from controlling NCUC, does it mean that the
NCUC EC should consider removing them from office due to their relationship either with a business company or with a registry, both of which are not committed to non-commercial interests.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Authority Issue</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It should be noted that the CURRENT EFFECTIVE NCUC Bylaws does not encompass terms or articles regarding removing an incumbent EC member, as it was mentioned in the former EC’s Statement that “there was no
precedent in NCUC’s history for the EC to draw upon”. Therefore, the former EC’s action to remove me from office was not on basis of the NCUC Bylaws. There is a gap in the NCUC Bylaws.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It is just owing to my case that NCUC found there is gap hence necessity to include removing an incumbent EC member in the revised NCUC Bylaws, see email on 14<sup>th</sup>, October, 2016 at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.ncuc.org_pipermail_ncuc-2Ddiscuss_2016-2DOctober_019237.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kIm7BGIl3qR3NKOfU-SwstwQr15K9OhllVGUWu0k8uc&m=kfPRSa6Hq7XVjsBTD1dYGMxfK7l5VIP7CJMsnltDDZw&s=9ClgqJhulZz6yY_JHgaWzghAeK0GuQZ9nwJwIfi4OKY&e=">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2016-October/019237.html[lists.ncuc.org]</a>,
however, in his comment on the former EC’s Statement, Professor Milton Mueller claimed that “[t]he approval of the new bylaws validates the actions of the EC by making it unambiguous that the NCUC has the right to remove from office people who are not eligible.”
Would you mind differentiating the relationship between cause and effect? Which is first? My case was before the former EC’s intention to include terms of removing an incumbent EC member in the new NCUC Bylaws. Professor Milton is talking about the effect
of the approval of the revised Bylaws. It seems Professor is talking about the other side of the coin. Unfortunately, two sides of a coin never meet each other. I hope any effective discussion should be on the same side of the coin.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3. Transparency Issue.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The former EC sent me a letter asking me to resign and claimed that it was an EC decision. Were there any EC meetings or records? I was removed only due to email exchanges between members of the former EC,
without documentation. Weren’t there transparency issues? In this sense, it seemed that I was removed in a non-transparent way with non-legitimate EC authority (at the time the NCUC bylaws was not revised, even if the NCUC bylaws was revised, it is not effective
now).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">With my comments, I aim to have the whole picture on the table for the NCUC members. I would not say the case is moot or not. All of us could comment.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">More importantly, I see that my case has helped eliminate ambiguities and gaps of the NCUC Bylaws, though it severely affected my work in NCSG/NCUC.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Community integrity is important. Legitimacy and transparency is also important.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you all!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Zuan Zhang (Peter Green)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">(Note:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. I would like to reiterate that I have no intention to participate in NCSG/NCUC because of the effect on me and I will unsubscribe from the NCSG/NCUC mailing list on 1<sup>st</sup>, May 2017. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Due to the effect of the case on me, after 8 months, in late March, I asked to join RySG and was listed as an alternate representative (without voting rights) of CONAC in RySG to start my ICANN journey.
As I am still in this case, I have reported my action to the Ombudsman for record.)</span></p>
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