<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 29 Jul 2017, at 6:23 pm, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I don't want to belabour the point too much, because we all have different perspectives on the value of the Intersessional and the reason why it is held, but personally, I do not see the Intersessional as a form of outreach. We are not looking to bring new voices into the fold at this meeting. Rather, we are looking to meet for a few days to plan ahead and to collaboratively strategise without the distraction of emails. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Agreed. Where outreach happens to occur, it is fine, but mostly it is a distraction. </div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">So I see no real reason for there to be geographic rotation of the Intersessional, unless it is to share the burden of long travel journeys. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I am, however, in a probably minority who likes the idea of sharing the burden of long travel journeys (as I’ve been on the losing side of that for every intersessional so far, and expect to be for every future one I attend unless that changes. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">What we do want, however, is exposure to and contact with senior ICANN staff, and from I understand, they are present at the ICANN hubs, but less so at the engagement centres. For that reason, I think Los Angeles makes the most sense for the coming Intersessional, but given the difficulty of travel to the US at the moment for many, perhaps Mexico City is an easier and just as economical option — and not so far away from LA that we might be able to get a few senior ICANN staff to join us, too. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Some ICANN staff are definitely will to travel. Some are not. I’m happy with some via dedicated video link up, as was done for some in Reykjavik. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Note that access to ICANN senior staff isn’t always great if they are not appropriately prepared for the meeting. I remember Tarek spending time with us when we were first in LA mostly just angering attendees with an inappropriate presentation and minimal interaction. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>David</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best wishes, Ayden <br class=""></div><div class=" protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class=""></div><div class="">Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] intersessional meeting<br class=""></div><div class="">Local Time: July 25, 2017 7:10 AM<br class=""></div><div class="">UTC Time: July 25, 2017 6:10 AM<br class=""></div><div class="">From: <a href="mailto:mike.oghia@gmail.com" class="">mike.oghia@gmail.com</a><br class=""></div><div class="">To: <br class=""></div><div class="">NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi everyone,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A quick point of clarification Farzaneh: is there any reason why the engagement offices couldn't be considered as well? That way it could extend the coverage of the regions where it could happen (such as in Montevideo or Brussels). <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">Best,</span></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px">-Michael</span></span><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:24 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="">raquino@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="">Hello<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree w/ Ayden. The conversation will happen, it is just a matter if<br class=""></div><div class="">we skip it or not.<br class=""></div><div class="">But I would also make the point of friendly venues which none of the<br class=""></div><div class="">ICANN hubs location is.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So my suggestion is the same as last year<br class=""></div><div class="">The intersessional could be in LAC or at least Portugal or Spain.<br class=""></div><div class="">This is especially important strategy to prepare for a 2018 where all<br class=""></div><div class="">the meetings are in places which also have Spanish as main language.<br class=""></div><div class="">Great partnerships and outreach can be made.<br class=""></div><div class="">I am grateful for the local contacts I've made during the<br class=""></div><div class="">intersessional which helped me do the event for NCUC in Internet<br class=""></div><div class="">Freedom Festival and bring new members.<br class=""></div><div class="">I believe i also understand the dialogue better in NCPH but I want to<br class=""></div><div class="">understand it more.<br class=""></div><div class="">It is also important to bring in NCUC members even if through remote<br class=""></div><div class="">participation. For that, I agree w/ Kathy we need to prepare and<br class=""></div><div class="">create strategies.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There was also a conversation about doing the intersessional with GDD<br class=""></div><div class="">or and ICANN Meeting.<br class=""></div><div class="">I'm in agreement w/ whatever result, as long as the venues aren't difficult..<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Renata<br class=""></div><div class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class=""></div><div class="">Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>