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<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">Hi Farzaneh,</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p2">Thanks for the question.<br><span class="gmail-s1"></span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">having participated in planning for several intercessional meetings and participated in some physically and remotely, I am really ambivalent about the value of those meetings. it takes time to organize and discuss for the agenda. and in many occasions, we were not really ready for the discussions there. </span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">in the last time we had discussion in the mailing list for the meeting in Iceland, I stressed that we need an evaluation of those meetings and their supposed benefits. I can understand some arguments about discussing with our counterpart in non-contracted party. however, I would notice that we rarely had a real follow-up from those meetings that can justify them. For example, the board seat election was resolved by the usual means in discussing with CSG by emails and not at the intercessional meeting.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">I am concerned about the inflation of meetings in general. GNSO Council will also have a strategy meeting of 3 days in January. adding that to the intercessional and usual ICANN meetings, we have 4 weeks (1 month) of meetings for ICANN with all the travels it includes (and not counting the preparation for the meetings in term of substance and the time apply for visa for some of us). That is definitely a barrier for several of us and limitation for participation. We need to explore other means to cooperate with CSG. I suggested last time that we explore the opportunity to have the intersessional (and maybe also a retreat) combined with the policy forum. it makes it longer but at least doesn’t add more traveling and provide the opportunity to involve more people.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">working with CSG can happen by other means like regular confcalls (for example monthly or quarterly), organizing joint sessions during regular ICANN meetings (last ones was in Hyderabad meeting) as we did before. we need to look for effectiveness and efficiency here.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">I would suggest pausing for next year and rethinking the format and the expectations on the intercessional meetings. with regard to preparation, it is not just for interessional but it is also needed for ICANN meetings, otherwise, it put more burden on few among who has to carry the load for the rest.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">Best,</span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-s1">Rafik</span></p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-07-23 6:39 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dear All,</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">For a couple of years, the noncontracted party house (NCPH, that means Commercial stakeholder group and noncommercial stakeholder group, for some information about NCPH refer to this page:<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/ncph/About+Us" target="_blank">https://community.icann.<wbr>org/display/ncph/About+Us</a>) have been having annual meetings separate from the main ICANN meeting. These meetings are called: "intersessional meetings".</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">ICANN is asking NCPH whether they want to hold another meeting in 2018. The last meeting which was held in 2017 in Iceland was well received by the attendees and 100% of the attendees found the meeting useful.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The attendees of the meeting are usually the leaders and active members of the group. This means both NCUC and NPOC Executive Committees and NCSG Executive Committee as well as NCSG representatives on GNSO Council. Sometimes we receive one or two travel slots to allocate to active participants of NCUC.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There is support for the meeting from other groups.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would like to know if you have any opinion about holding an intersessional meeting in 2018, if you are either for or against it. In any case please provide reasons. I will communicate your ideas and positions on this to the organizers. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">My personal opinion is that intersessional is an additional burden on the volunteers, especially noncommercial groups, and I am not convinced that the meeting is that beneficial for getting to know the other groups, we can interact with the other groups in other settings. But it is not up to me to make a decision, there has been support for the meeting from the other groups and NCUC leaders as well. I have however informed ICANN that if intersessiona take place it should consider the following conditions: </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. it is held in a visa friendly country, preferably where ICANN has an office so that it will not cost too much to hold the meeting. I think holding the meeting last year in Iceland was too burdensome and costly.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. I have said this before and reiterate, those who want to attend the meeting should actively participate in its preparation, setting the agenda and be prepared for the meeting. This means they should attend at least some of the preparatory meetings leading up to the annual meeting. If they are allocated the travel slot late in the process, then they should read up on materials and contribute fully. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please discuss until Wednesday 26 July. I will send a note to the organizers with your comments.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best</div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-6487517408026565288gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
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