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    <p>I would like to second Ayden's excellent comments.</p>
    <p>Also see inline.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/07/2017 19:19, Ayden Férdeline
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Hi Farzaneh,<br>
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      <div>Thank you for inviting our feedback on the value of the
        intersessional. <br>
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      <div>I had the good fortune of participating in this year's
        intersessional in Reykjavík and found it to be an effective
        forum for fostering inter-NCPH understanding. Remote
        participation is not yet a substitute for face-to-face meetings
        like this one where the focus is less about the formal agenda
        and more about understanding the perspectives of others who we
        do not ordinarily have significant interaction with. I thought
        that the intersessional's format, complete with breakout
        sessions and frequent interventions during the plenaries, really
        worked. For this reason, I strongly support our continued
        participation in this forum. </div>
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    Indeed, I would say that it is critical to our functioning as a
    house.<br>
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      <div>(In the event that we decided not to participate, would the
        meeting simply go ahead with the CSG participating and meeting
        with ICANN staff without us? It just makes sense to me that we
        be at the table too.) <br>
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      <div>That said, for a number of reasons I thought Iceland was not
        the most sensible pick for the meeting this year. Rotating the
        meeting between ICANN’s three hubs  – Los Angeles, Singapore,
        and Istanbul – makes a lot more sense to me than wasting
        resources scouting out a new location year upon year. And of
        course there are no objections on my part to your condition that
        our participating representatives attend well-prepared and ready
        to contribute.<br>
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    Agree that rotating among the hubs makes a lot of sense.<br>
    <br>
    Matthew<br>
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      <div>Best wishes,<br>
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          <div>Ayden Férdeline<br>
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        <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
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        <div>Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Intersessional meeting<br>
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        <div>Local Time: July 22, 2017 11:39 PM<br>
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        <div>UTC Time: July 22, 2017 9:39 PM<br>
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        <div>From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a><br>
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        <div>To: NCUC-discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org"><ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org></a><br>
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            class="gmail_default">Dear All,<br>
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            class="gmail_default">For a couple of years, the
            noncontracted party house (NCPH, that means Commercial
            stakeholder group and noncommercial stakeholder group, for
            some information about NCPH refer to this page:<a
              href="https://community.icann.org/display/ncph/About+Us"
              rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/ncph/About+Us</a>)
            have been having annual meetings separate from the main
            ICANN meeting. These meetings are called:
            "intersessional meetings".<br>
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            class="gmail_default">ICANN is asking NCPH whether they want
            to hold another meeting in 2018. The last meeting which was
            held in 2017 in Iceland was well received by the attendees
            and 100% of the attendees found the meeting useful.<br>
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            class="gmail_default">The attendees of the meeting are
            usually the leaders and active members of the group. This
            means both NCUC and NPOC Executive Committees and NCSG
            Executive Committee as well as NCSG representatives on GNSO
            Council. Sometimes we receive one or two travel slots to
            allocate to active participants of NCUC.<br>
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            class="gmail_default">There is support for the meeting from
            other groups.<br>
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            class="gmail_default">I would like to know if you have any
            opinion about holding an intersessional meeting in 2018, if
            you are either for or against it. In any case please provide
            reasons. I will communicate your ideas and positions on this
            to the organizers. <br>
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            class="gmail_default">My personal opinion is that
            intersessional is an additional burden on the volunteers,
            especially noncommercial groups, and I am not convinced that
            the meeting is that beneficial for getting to know the other
            groups, we can interact with the other groups in other
            settings. But it is not up to me to make a decision, there
            has been support for the meeting from the other groups and
            NCUC leaders as well. I have however informed ICANN that if
             intersessiona take place it should consider the following
            conditions: <br>
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            class="gmail_default">1. it is held in a visa friendly
            country, preferably where ICANN has an office so that it
            will not cost too much to hold the meeting. I think holding
            the meeting last year in Iceland was too burdensome and
            costly.<br>
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            class="gmail_default">2. I have said this before and
            reiterate, those who want to attend the meeting should
            actively participate in its preparation, setting the agenda
            and be prepared for the meeting. This means they should
            attend at least some of the preparatory meetings leading up
            to the annual meeting. If they are allocated the travel slot
            late in the process, then they should read up on materials
            and contribute fully. <br>
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            class="gmail_default">Please discuss until Wednesday 26
            July. I will send a note to the organizers with your
            comments.<br>
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                <div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana,
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