<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I personally suggest removing the gender field completely. It’s irrelevant information. <div><br></div><div>Jesse<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(94, 94, 94); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14.7px;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 12pt; -webkit-font-kerning: none;"></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(94, 94, 94); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14.7px;"><br></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 17px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 19.6px;"><br><span style="font-size: 17pt; -webkit-font-kerning: none;"></span></p></div><div><br>On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Cedric Laurant <<a href="mailto:cedric@laurant.org">cedric@laurant.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>It is indeed irrelevant for the purpose of a public event registration.</span><br><span>What might be relevant is how people want to be addressed in</span><br><span>correspondence or in panels. It would therefore be sufficient to add a</span><br><span>field with "Mr"/"Mrs"/"Dr", etc.</span><br><span>Cédric</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 7/17/17 12:18 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>We might want to lobby to change the "Other" selection to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"don't want to say" or "irrelevant" something to that effect</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and then all select that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Even better would be to get rid of the question altogether</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on grounds that it is irrelevant.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tapani</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Jul 16 21:12, Renata Aquino Ribeiro (<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have just read the raw transcript of the last WS2-Diversity meeting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Meeting page</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=66089058">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=66089058</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Raw transcript</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66089058/DIVERSITY%20SUBGROUP%20MEETING%20_07132017-FINAL-en.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1500220959000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66089058/DIVERSITY%20SUBGROUP%20MEETING%20_07132017-FINAL-en.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1500220959000&api=v2</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The raw transcript means it is the 1st form of the transcript, no corrections</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But what I read made me caught my attention enough to share this on the lists</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Especially giving the discussion about reviewing where meetings happen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Apparently there was a "concern" with registration to ICANN60 because</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"a form" presented the follow question and options of response</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gender:  Male/Female/Other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The "other" option raised the "concern" and ombudsman brought up that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>this was the theme of a conversation w/ local organization</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So what would happen if ICANN had, let's say, a number of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>registrations of "Other" ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Would this be theme for other conversations between ombudsman and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>local organizers?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Are there any data collected by registration form that would cause</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"concern" to local organizers?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And sorry about the extensive use of quote marks. The words are a bit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>surprising and I tried to soften the blow.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Renata</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-- </span><br><span>Cédric Laurant</span><br><span>Global Data Privacy Attorney & Public Policy Expert</span><br><span>(<a href="http://cedriclaurant.com">http://cedriclaurant.com</a>)</span><br><span>Attorney at Law (District of Columbia Bar, USA) - Abogado | CIPM,</span><br><span>CIPP/US, CIPP/E, FIP</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Cedric@Laurant.org">Cedric@Laurant.org</a> (**)</span><br><span>(**) GPG: 347F F3D6 DBE5 8075 5B2C E093 1FEC 5AC6 220B 2548 (Download:</span><br><span><a href="http://tinyurl.com/email-cedric">http://tinyurl.com/email-cedric</a>)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>