<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 28, 2017 5:25 PM, "Niels ten Oever" <<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_8662114489840935784quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_8662114489840935784quoted-text"><br>
On 06/28/2017 05:20 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> I am not a very active participant of the NCUC but but do follow<br>
> happening and as a member I find this of interest to me. I read through<br>
> the blog post and it was a good read; it seem quite educating and makes<br>
> a lot of sense. I may understand why a certain service provider may not<br>
> like the content but am not sure I understand the reason why NCUC is<br>
> making a statement against the blog post.<br>
<br>
</div>Did you read the statement? Which argument did you not find compelling?<br>
<div class="m_8662114489840935784quoted-text"></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: I quote the following from the article:</div><div dir="auto">".....<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">. Tor serves many good purposes, but also attracts Dark Web users wanting to keep their activities or marketplaces secret </span><em style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">and </em><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">untraceable...."</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It seem to me that the blog highlights the good and bad of a tool/service. However your statement seem to indicate that the blog only highlights the bad stuff. (ref: <span style="font-family:arial;font-size:11pt">We sincerely hope you can correct the negative language in your article)</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_8662114489840935784quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_8662114489840935784quoted-text"><br>
><br>
> Overall, I know the views of members may not necessarily matter here (as<br>
> it seem the EC makes the decision), i will suggest that you provide<br>
> authoritative source for the definition of "dark web" and "deep web" in<br>
> your statement.<br>
<br>
</div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Dark_web</a></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: Good if that is authoritative then it may be good to include that as a reference in the statement. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_8662114489840935784quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> On Jun 28, 2017 4:59 PM, "Niels ten Oever" <<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a><br>
</div><div class="m_8662114489840935784quoted-text">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissident<wbr>s.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> This morning the ICANN VP for Security and IT published a blogpost which<br>
> appeared in this mornings newsletter, as well as on ICANNs website<br>
> concerning the Dark Web.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/bl<wbr>og/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hi<wbr>dden-services</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/b<wbr>log/the-dark-web-the-land-of-h<wbr>idden-services</a>><br>
><br>
> A number of us got together and drafted an email to the author to give<br>
> him an opportunity to correct the falsehoods that are stated in the<br>
> blog.<br>
><br>
> We have two options:<br>
><br>
> 1. Send the letter on behalf of the NCUC<br>
> 2. Sign the letter in your personal capacities.<br>
><br>
> Let's discuss it here, but feel free to already sign (as a fallback<br>
> option).<br>
><br>
> You can find the draft letter here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr>ent/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpb<wbr>kLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit</a><br>
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docu<wbr>ment/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOp<wbr>bkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit</a>><br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Niels<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Niels ten Oever<br>
> Head of Digital<br>
><br>
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