<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is a very brief note of the 30 minute chat I had with Goran, please note that I made notes of what Goran said in my own language and they are my interpretations, so he did not necessarily say the exact words of this note.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. Some have raised concerns about holding ICANN meetings in countries that do not respect human rights. Goran explained that at the moment the meeting criteria does not require ICANN to take into consideration not to hold ICANN meetings in oppressive countries and maybe it is time for the community to discuss the issue of whether to consider the human rights indicator of a country as a criterion for the choice of ICANN host country. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. As to LAC engagement and why LAC can be a model for the rest of the world:My take was that the CEO initially means that stakeholder groups within a region should learn the dynamics of working together. Regions and stakeholders in different regions have different working modalities. Various stakeholder groups in a region should be able to collaborate and work together and ultimately with the rest of the world's community. LAC's stakeholder groups have been successful in carrying out this collaboration.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. As to ICANN becoming a global monitoring content regulator: Nothing has changed at ICANN with this regard. ICANN will not become a global content monitoring tool.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">4. I also talked about remote participation. He acknowledged the shortcomings. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">5. They are carrying out a visualization of the current ICANN processes ( he mentioned this before at an NCUC meeting) which will be discussed with the community when it is finalized. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, hfaiedh ines <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" target="_blank">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great ! thank you Farzaneh, and enjoy your well-deserved break :) </div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-06 5:35 GMT-04:00 farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">All<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I had the 1:1 conversation with Goran on Friday. I am going away for a couple days. Will report back soon.</div></div><div class="m_4251294691062746555HOEnZb"><div class="m_4251294691062746555h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 May 2017 23:17, "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks all, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We still have time until Thursday if you want me to relay your messages/comments to the CEO. So far, I have gathered the points below (based on comments that came to my mind and members comments) but I might not get to discuss everything. If you want to add to these comments or want to prioritize one over another, let me know. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="color:rgb(20,23,26);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap">1. The CEO said: "The collaboration we have in Latin America & the Caribbean is a model for the rest of the world” </span><a href="https://twitter.com/icann_president" class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-twitter-atreply m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-pretty-link m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-js-nav" dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(255,102,0);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap" target="_blank">@icann_president</a><span style="color:rgb(20,23,26);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICANN?src=hash" class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-twitter-hashtag m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-pretty-link m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-js-nav" dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(255,102,0);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap" target="_blank">#ICANN</a><span style="color:rgb(20,23,26);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap"> at </span><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LACNIC27?src=hash" class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-twitter-hashtag m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-pretty-link m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_-4247849685427352040gmail-m_183702153727201056gmail-js-nav" dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(255,102,0);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:0.27px;white-space:pre-wrap" target="_blank">#LACNIC27</a>. <br></div><div class="gmail_default">What does LAC do that other region don't do? Why is regional collaboration important at ICANN?</div><div class="gmail_default">Do regions need to collaborate better or do stakeholder groups need to collaborate better with those who hold different perspectives from their own sector? </div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. </span><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Question regarding Compliance. More and more people are coming to ICANN to do more and more. It all sounds good: "anti-abuse," "law enforcement," "protecting copyright and trademark." But a lot of the requests amount to massive limitations on Free Expression and Free Speech -- and procedurally, bringing ICANN into the regulation of content. The Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if adopted, would make ICANN into the greatest global monitor of content ever. </font></div><div class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993quoted-text"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall </span>Street<span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> and the world that ICANN manages and oversees the infrastructure of the Internet, but not what it is used for -- the roads, bridges and tunnels, but not what is being carried within a car (his analogy). </span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate pressures to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and takedown) debate? What will he do to protect the traditional lines and limits of ICANN? How does that "square" with the work of Jaime Hedlund in Compliance and its expanding role? </span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. Remote Participation: Face-to-Face meetings challenges </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">4. CEO report to Board, More emphasis on the different role of Supporting Orgs and Advisory Committees and a bit of background on what each group does </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">5. A cross community session on General Data Protection Regulation: what NCUC thinks </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">6. Meeting B: Not only a Policy Forum but a Policy and Outreach Forum </span></div><div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font><div class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993elided-text">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Excellent question.</font></font></p><span class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_3775873009761169614moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-05-24 08:26, Kathy Kleiman
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Farzi,
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Great question from Renata. My question has to do with Compliance.
More and more people are coming to ICANN to do more and more. It
all sounds good: "anti-abuse," "law enforcement," "protecting
copyright and trademark." But a lot of the requests amount to
massive limitations on Free Expression and Free Speech -- and
procedurally, bringing ICANN into the regulation of content. The
Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if adopted, would make
ICANN into the greatest global monitor of content ever.
<br>
<br>
Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall
Street and the world that ICANN manages and oversees the
infrastructure of the Internet, but not what it is used for -- the
roads, bridges and tunnels, but not what is being carried within a
car (his analogy).
<br>
<br>
With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate
pressures to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and
takedown) debate? What will he do to protect the traditional lines
and limits of ICANN? How does that "square" with the work of Jaime
Hedlund in Compliance and its expanding role?
<br>
<br>
Best and tx,
<br>
<br>
Kathy
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On 5/24/2017 1:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi
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So during LACNIC27 the CEO said the following
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"The collaboration we have in Latin America & the Caribbean
is a model
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for the rest of the world”
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<a class="m_4251294691062746555m_3135371934674794993m_3488352067856664724m_3775873009761169614moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/ICANN/status/867012854846636032" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ICANN/stat<wbr>us/867012854846636032</a>
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I'd then suggest the question:
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What is wrong with the world?
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Seriously, how can regions collaborate better and why is this
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important in ICANN so how can we accomplish it?
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Thanks
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