<div dir="ltr">+1<br> we need to get everyone speaking and listening :-) <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: +243 993810967<i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <font face="monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN Fellow (<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a> & <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" target="_blank">Marrakech</a>).<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br><br>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-05 12:08 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks for sharing your thoughts here, Arsene (sorry I cannot get an accent to appear on your name on this keyboard). I did mention ISOC's collaborative leadership exchange on the call, and think it is a great model for us to learn from. I suggested that we borrow elements from it like the agenda hacking and other interactive components, because no one wants to be seated in a lecture hall for two days straight... we need to get everyone speaking and listening :-)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div class="m_-5287246762869011226protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-5287246762869011226protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>- Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-5287246762869011226protonmail_signature_block-proton m_-5287246762869011226protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote class="m_-5287246762869011226protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Recording and Attendance: NCUC Joburg Outreach Planning Call 02 May 2017<br></div><div>Local Time: May 5, 2017 10:34 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: May 5, 2017 9:34 AM<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>To: Yolanda Mlonzi <<a href="mailto:mamiyaomhle@gmail.com" target="_blank">mamiyaomhle@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div><a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi everyone,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am really sorry I was not able to join this important call. But just took some time to read the chat.<br></div></div><div>I noted a couple very important points/elements that we should consider as we get ready for this outreach event. I am planning to be there and willing to support.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>For an outreach event, apart from making sure we mostly speak NCUC and our work (to use our ressources the most), we should also take time to hear from some members about their experiences and benefit they gained from being NCUC members. Such testimonies attract attention and can help people who wanna join understand the NCUC in a practical way. Of course when presenting the NCUC, we will need to state what make us different from other groups.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>I had a quick look at the google doc and would encourage the role play if we have a good moderator to run it on Second day. As someone mentionned, role plays help people understand more an issue than hearing from a panel. When you practice something, you feel more connected to it. That's my way of seing things.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Someone mentionned the ISOC's collaborative leadership exchange, I believe that was Ayden. I always enjoy it and will never miss that day-long session when attending the IGF. When the conductor is doing it well, you feel connected to the topics he is helping you discuss. I believe if we have someone in the NCUC who can lead this, this will be fantastic. This can be merged with the role play session or the latter can be added during this type of session.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Lastly, for newcomers part of the Fellowship program, since this is a Policy meeting, there won't be those morning sessions as usual where they get the opportunity to hear from all AC/SO representatives to make their minds on which one to join. An all day session for them is scheduled on Sunday and that will be all for them. Just wanted to point this out, maybe important to know.<br></div></div><div>NCUC should have a well planned outreach meeting, well advertised to attract new members to join.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="m_-5287246762869011226gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>------------------------<br></div><div>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div></div><div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br></div><div>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br></div><div>Tel: <a href="tel:+243%20993%20810%20967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><i></i><br></div></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i></i><br></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br></i></div><div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <span class="m_-5287246762869011226font" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </span><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN Fellow (<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a> & <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Marrakech</a>).<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br></div><div><br></div><div>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2017-05-04 15:28 GMT+02:00 Yolanda Mlonzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mamiyaomhle@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">mamiyaomhle@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Maryam and all,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Thanks to all of you who participated in this meeting and the draft agenda looks great. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I love the policy practice suggestion, from my experience with the African School on Internet Governance (AfriSIG) this session is always a fan favourite! Also a great way for participants and newcomers to familiarise themselves with key policy issues & how processes play out. <br></div></div><div><span class="m_-5287246762869011226highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226font" style="font-family:arial"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="m_-5287246762869011226highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226font" style="font-family:arial"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226size" style="font-size:11pt">Excited to attend.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="m_-5287246762869011226highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226font" style="font-family:arial"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span></span><br></div><div><span class="m_-5287246762869011226highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226font" style="font-family:arial"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226size" style="font-size:11pt">Yolanda.</span></span></span></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-5287246762869011226h5">On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Maryam Bakoshi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-5287246762869011226h5"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-5287246762869011226m_8210365558531672912m_-9192578195593822946WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Please find below attendance and recording of the NCUC Johannesburg Outreach Planning Call, of 02 May 2017.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Attendance</span></b><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">: Ayden Ferdeline, Bruna Santos, Farzaneh Badii, Renata Aquino Ribeiro, Tapani Tarvainen, Thato Mfikwe, Stephanie Perrin, Tatiana Tropina, Ines Hfaiedh<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">AC Recording URL</span></b><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">: <a href="https://participate.icann.org/p4m8vxbqans/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=d2528454b9e1fc78ef23605c6bb09a127bae02b9f04f3574b80fb1eee75451b3" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> https://participate.icann.org/<wbr>p4m8vxbqans/</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">AC Chat:<u></u><u></u></span></b><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: hi all<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome to the NCUC Outreach Planning call<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: welcome Ayden & Bruna<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Hello, Maryan and Ayden! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Farzi<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: Thanks Maryam <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: Here is the program we will work on <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7n<wbr>HGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: I was hoping that we get some participants from Africa to discuss how we should approach topics <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: Maryam we wait a bit for Thato <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: he said he could make it<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Ok great, thank you<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: i'll send a quick message to Stephanie to see if she is online<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: i can hear Maryam<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Hi there<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think you have to count w/ folks coming a bit late <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: it's university, it's far<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Renata<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Thanks Maryam<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: should I reach out to the whatsapp people for this meeting? Nadira?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which bullet? can't scroll <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ah sorry in my face :(<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: So an outline - local experts (academia), regional CSOs (APC + partners), local partners (zadna + thato's references)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: oh that's interesting. for privacy that would be perfect<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: GJM, Lucien Pierce, Sizne Snall ka Mutze<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: UNISA one of the them<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Bruna, I think we need to find out who the major organization there is but I don't think CGI can help us. Maybe Lusnic can send in someone from Angola<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tapani Tarvainen: Apologies for joining late.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Yes, @renata<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Hi Tapani<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Tapani & Thato<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Sizwe apparently is a BRICS cyberlaw scholar, quite interesting<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: they're all the names that Claudio mentioned to us. <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which is the doc address again?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7n<wbr>HGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks Farzi<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think would be good to have at least 1 regional speaker in any roundtable<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: at least as moderator <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Stephanie<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: :-)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Sorry to be late, my email has been down at the university since Friday, so I am missing a lot<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: internet shutdowns, taking from AFRINIC policy directives and role of non commercial constituency role are proposed prog items<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: indeed<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: super <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Agreed! would be amazing <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think it is something we can do in the end of the day<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I think confusion would arise, unfortunately.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: a general debate about how things interconnect<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Cant hear clearly connectivity problem on my side.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ICANN doesnt do that but its important to deal w/ human rights issues in domain name policy too<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i think that would be a good message<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: true<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I think we need to keep the message simple, and focus on what we want out of the participants, i.e. where do you we want people volunteering in our activities?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: As much info be specific as possible it also needs relevance<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: A setting the scene would be good<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yes agree on thato<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: That would be great, and I agree we need an MC<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: +1 <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Sorry we dont have one on this call!<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: I mean dial out <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: wanted clarity on what I need to do. The venue has been booked.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Thato there is a mic button on the main Tab(s)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: if you press that button it should connect your audio<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Short day Friday for those of us flying in/...<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Full day on Saturday and short day on Friday.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I dont know about you youngsters, but I am going to need a nap<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: For local participants, I think Friday is a business day so they might be able to get out of the office or classroom, whereas Saturday is taking up their weekend....<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Lets get them used to ICANN participation.....weekends, what are weekends??<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: C'mon stephanie, you're way more energetic than us<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: You are all very sweet, but I can assure you after 26 hours economy I am going to look like death warmed over.....<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i agree local participants ditching work to go to our outreach would prefer an all day<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: As long as we have refreshments and keep the prog interesting, especially on Friday we will get sufficient support<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I think we need to get our mentee, buddying system working better.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tapani Tarvainen: South African wines are very good. :-)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: very good point Tapani ;-)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Maybe we could spend some time asking them what kind of help they would appreciate to get going, ask about comparable experiences<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I am happy to talk about privacy <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which part?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: i am happy to talk<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: and council if there are no other councillors rrrre<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: there<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7n<wbr>HGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: yes. positive, upbeat, exciting.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: I saw my name as a speaker on the draft google doc, will it be around my experience in NCUC, position of local chapter or what? Second day would be good with panel discussions.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: I am very new to NCUC, but i'd be glad to participate! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ok tks<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: when would be the lightning talks?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: no you are right<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Hi all <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Sorry - I was at the jurisdiction meeting. Happy it ended early and I can join <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Ah ok clearer now <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Highly agree<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I like the anecdote too<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Hi TT!<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I can also work on a visual of our members accomplishments, the Internet Freedom Forum twitter coverage by Benjamin<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: NCUC workshops in IGF<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: WSIS and other images<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: @renata maybe a map of events that NCUC has participated <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Regarding ZADNA they have been very busy but they agreed that they will be participating in the outreach. With the intro of DotAfrica they will pull crowds. sorry to take you back.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: A map should be quite impressive <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Maybe it is a question that anriette can help us with....<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: agree a map would be super cool<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: brasilia will be in the center of the world as always haha<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: I can help you guys with that! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Renata :D <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: ok! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I think we need to be really clear that content and bandwidth are things we cannot help with.....drawing the line between free expression and content control is a delicate operation, and I do
think we should try to explain that in the context of ICANN's role.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: we have quite a few in Europe - so I can help :P<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i love maps and their subjectivities<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Yes I am. <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Sorry I was at Jurisdiction call farz, as agreed but joined right after it ended <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Students who in tye law, media and communication desciplines. mainly civic society and includinguthe AFRISIG class. I can hear everything.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: I think we can appeal to two thngs: personal achievemnt (what they gain for themselves/experience) and higher goals - civil society interests, etc<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I loathe to ask them because I think they are not strictly civil society, but if necessary, I can ask my contacts at the Web Foundation or the Alliance for Affordable Internet to either come
to our session or to help us attract speakers. Many of their staff are in South Africa.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: But if we find ourselves needing more attendees at the last-minute I can reach out, and suspect they will be helpful.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: oanApologies for typos: activits and we will be engaging acsis, a pan african civic organisation and other human rights organisations and lawyers.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: Onica, I will add her<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: <a href="http://webfoundation.org/about/executive-team/onica-makwakwa/" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://webfoundation.org/about<wbr>/executive-team/onica-makwakwa<wbr>/</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: she is an NCUC member<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Agree with Renata<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: yes, Renata! <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think we can say that the grants they seek are of themes close to NCUC's work<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I am adding that to the doc<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I think there is not a common African definition; how privacy is conceived in SOuth Africa is very different from, say, in Egypt or Tanzania.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Farzaneh Badii: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7n<wbr>HGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit</a><u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I love the idea of the role play<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: Good morning everyone. I just had a break now.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Ines<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: role play seems nice<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: I like the role play as well ! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Role play is always is great idea<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I think it is really important that the audience participates, not just listening to talking heads<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: We add one more experienced member to each group of role play participants<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Well I did several in my life and yes it does need lots of dedication <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: happy to help in preparation <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: We need to seed the participants with some keen folks who do it well.....Renata, how many of your folks from Copenhagnen will be there, they were keen<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: for teh start: better to make it very focused and with a *very* defined question unless you have a several days to play. The clearer the better <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: I think we need a registrar.....<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Greg would be good. <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Steve too <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: they might poison the views of our participants<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Farz LOL<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: lol<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: haha <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: My battery dying, will reconnect soon<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: That is my fear, we need a registrrr to keep them honest. INvite michele, we can have a real argument<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: we can speak to their ideas as well, but also provide rebuttals to some of their arguments <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Woalking in someone's shoes allows people to better defend themselves in the future (that's basically the main idea of any role play) <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: NCPC will be represented by Bruna Stephanie<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: They are keen, should be a baptism of fire see if they stay as inspired as in copenhagen<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: 90 minutes is reasonable<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: two hours at least. <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: 2h<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: It would be good if our experts could mentor the folks playing their role eg Shatan mentors the IP person, Michele the registrar, me or Ayden the privacy advocate......we need a real turkey
to mentor the private secto law enforcement<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: 90 min is not really enough for role play <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: 90 minutes, short break, then another 30 minutes?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: 90 min is fine so that the audience doesnt become passive<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i am not a fan of role play so should sit out here though<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: but i think it could work<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Omg NCPC is smth that will follow me forever! But Im one of the new and I'll be in Joburg! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: it usually take some time for peope to adjust (from my experience)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: has anyone else participated in ISOC's collaborative leadership exchange?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: well unless you make them all just individual players - because if there are stakeholder groups you have to give people time to work in groups as well <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Ayden, I didn't... I led and helped with several role plays in the past couple of years and they always took longer as planned even with strict time management <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: so I'd rather gave it two hours. And yes, last year I led one in Meissen together with Avri <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: break yes :)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: agree that break works very well <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yes break to breathe<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: break! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: Normally breaks allow to finalise the positions and discuss <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i think the lightning talks dont really need break, folks can go talking as much as in time permits, open space, like a mad group town square<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Well it will be important to say afterwards, now forget everything Shatan said,......<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tapani Tarvainen: Ceterum censeo Shatan obliviscata est.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Tapani taking too seriously a multilingual internet :D<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: we did something similar at the Leadership Program prior to icann 58<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i like the agenda hacking bit<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: thank you Ayden<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: we could do that on the lightning talks<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: sure, will bullet point. but it does need a strong MC!<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Yes I think agenda hacknng is a great idea<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: agenda hacking and getting people to stand up - no one wants to sit for 2 days<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: not a fan of standing up<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: but yes, many folks are doing it<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: at least, give a good reason<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: doesn't have to be standing up for long, i am thinking just for 30 minutes for the welcome, and pre-lunch debrief<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Having other stakeholders would be nice for providing a broad view on Icann, but we could end up becoming an outreach for them! I find it important, but as everyone said: we have to put some thought
into it! <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: you also can't be sure that Greg and other will actually be there on the day of outreach <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: I appreciate that people do have affiliations across stakeholder groups, but I see this session as an NCUC recruiting event. I think we should be focused on what the NCUC is looking to get out
of this session. We are spending $7,000 of our resources here; what is the return we want?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Also like the Agenda Hacking moment - maybe NCUC guiding people through what would be the important meetings to us <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: Agenda hacking requires a strong MC to lead and to readjust everything on the fly<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: That's an interesting point Ayden - for me it was always important to know that there are also interesting peopl on the "other side"<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i also like the "other side", "other ppl". Not having them there just would raise my curiosity<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: sounds good<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: can we not get ICANN to cough up a cocktail?<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks this was very productive, we advanced a lot<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yet there is a lot to do :D<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tatiana Tropina: thank Farzy and thanks a lot all <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: 2 role plays of 3 hours each with a lunch break in between<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: would be good Stephanie since those universities folks are amazing<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: just got back<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ines Hfaiedh: thanks Farzaneh and everyone :)<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Let ee know if you need someone to recruit a GAC rep, I could ask my Canadian colleagues....<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: Okay<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I agree<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Ok will see if I can get someone<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: GAC also raises curiosity always<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: Thanks everyone! <u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks!<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: thanks all<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ayden Férdeline: bye<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Bruna Santos: bye <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Thato: yes we can get additional space if required. thanks <u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maryam Bakoshi: Thank you all for attending, this meeting is ended.<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Stephanie Perrin: Thanks Farzi, great job chairing!!<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Tapani Tarvainen: bye all<u></u><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5287246762869011226colour" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p 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