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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Hi Peter, <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I do think part of the
problem here is that perhaps we were not getting communication
from you at the correct time. Now you seem to be very
motivated to communicate, which is great. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I made the remark
about you working at the CONAC booth because I met you in the
hall in the building where the meetings where held, and you
came up to me and apologized for missing one of our meetings
(either the NCSG one or the NCUC one, I cannot remember)
because you were working with your colleagues and could not
get away. Then you returned to the CONAC booth. Was I incorrect
in assuming that your day job was interrupting your volunteer
activities at NCUC? If so, please tell me, I am happy to be
corrected.<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I did not interrogate
you at the time on it, and I am not going to do it now. The
question is a simple one, when you attend ICANN meetings, are
you working for CONAC? Are you on salary? On what basis are
you participating at ICANN? are you on a leave of absence, is
this considered professional development for your work etc.?
This whole episode in my view reinforces a point I have been
attempting to raise for years at ICANN: we need more
transparency about what our members are doing at ICANN. Who
do they purport to represent, who are they actually working
for? No, this does not mean that consultants have to release
their client lists, the commercial sector seem to manage this
quite well and we need to do the same.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">As an example, when I
started at ICANN in the EWG, I was still working for the
Canadian government. I took personal leave for every day that
I worked at ICANN meetings. That soon added up to weeks of
leave spent at ICANN meetings. I had to file a fairly
detailed conflict of interest statement, and I never
represented the views of the government. If you are on salary
for an organization (a company, a government, etc) I think
some kind of explanation as to how you are not representing
that organization in your ICANN activities is required.
However, I understand that my views are at the extreme end of
some of the views held by our constituents.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande"><br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">In the meantime, I
think it is a great pity that this is really the first communication
I have had from you in at least a year. We were supposed to
be working on the RDS, and I looked forward to helping you
understand the EWG report more fully. I remain happy to do
that. Let us get on with the work here, folks.<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande"><br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards,
Stephanie Perrin<br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande"></font></font><br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-04-21 09:34, Peter Green wrote:<br>
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<p>(Dear Folks,</p>
<p>I did see there were several comments coming in regarding my
Statement. </p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I would like to respond</span><span
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dear Stephanie,</span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for your comment. </span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I do hope "it seems pretty
clear to [you]</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">". </span><br>
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<p>Pertaining to what you have added, you saw me "on duty at the
CONAC booth while attending Marrakech" (ICANN 55,
held in March 2016 <span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial,
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<p>Is this clear to you?</p>
<p>Are you sure?</p>
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<p>It was quite possible that I sat down with my computer at a
booth (or at whatever booth) during intervals of intensive
sessions during an ICANN public meeting. I assume anybody
may sit down at a booth during an ICANN public meeting, if
he/she needs to have a rest.</p>
<p>But I have no idea how you came to that conclusion just based
on your "visual impression"?</p>
<p>Are you sure there was a CONAC booth in ICANN 55-Marrakech?</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What I can provide is let the
evidence speak:</span><br>
</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1. </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank You to Sponsors of ICANN 55
Meeting</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></p>
<div>The Board wishes to thank the following sponsors: Verisign,
Inc., Nominet UK, NCC Group, PDR Solutions FZC, China Internet
Network Information Center (CNNIC), Public Interest Registry,
CentralNic, Afilias plc, Radix FZC, Rightside, dotistanbul,
fmai, .MA and Office National Des Aeroports.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">FYI, to have a booth in an
ICANN public meeting, organizations have to be sponsors.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">So, Stephanie, a</span><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">re you sure there was a CONAC booth
in ICANN 55 and you saw me on duty at the booth?</span></p>
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To make this fact clear, I woud like to have your reply on
this point.</p>
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Peter</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>发件人:</b>
Ncuc-discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org"><ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org></a>
代表 Stephanie Perrin
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br>
<b>发送时间:</b> 2017年4月19日 0:57<br>
<b>收件人:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
<b>主题:</b> Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Statement from Zuan Zhang
(Peter Green) Complaint to Ombudsman</font>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">It seems
pretty clear to me. I would add that Peter was on
duty at the CONAC booth while attending Marakech.
This is nothing personal, it is just important that we
keep things clear and stick to the rules.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards,
Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-04-18 12:08, Remmy
Nweke wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">James thanks for further efforts.
<div dir="auto">Like you said this issue should come to
a close.</div>
<div dir="auto">With the aforesaid evidence there is
nothing more to add.</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards</div>
<div dir="auto">Remmy</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Apr 2017 16:26, "James
Gannon" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">In the interests of
transparency I need to out myself as one of
the initial complainants, Peter was clearly
operating within ICANN as a representative
of CONAC representing a registry and not as
stated
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">“My organization
CONAC is a member of RySG and two colleagues
of mine are serving as representatives of
CONAC in RySG. I was not listed as a
representative of CONAC in RySG at that
time. The only fact is I am staff of CONAC”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">This can be
verified by visiting
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Drafting+Team#DraftingTeam-CompositionandAttendance"
target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/<wbr>display/S1SF/Drafting+Team#<wbr>DraftingTeam-<wbr>CompositionandAttendance</a>
where one will find,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:#333333; background:white">Zuan Zhang
- China Organizational Name Administration
Center (CONAC)”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:#333333; background:white"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
color:#333333; background:white">listed
under registries. Additionally this team was
closed to all but contracted parties and the
GAC as confirmed to me by Fabien from ICANN
staff.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;
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color:#333333; background:white"> </span></p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">On 01/09/2015, 17:07,
"Fabien Betremieux" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org"
target="_blank">fabien.betremieux@icann.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>Hello James,</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>Members of the
Framework Drafting Team are either
representatives of
</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>Registry
Operator, Registrars or Governments
(GAC/PSWG). We don¹t have
</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>a specific
observer status for other members of the
community at this
</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>point of our
developments (which started only recently).</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>However, all
developments of the Drafting Team are public.
You will
</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>find all
available information on this workspace:</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+Framework+Hom"
target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+<wbr>Framework+Hom</a></p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>e</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>Let me know if
you need any additional information.</p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
<p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in">>Best Regards</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">So as a complainant
to the former EC on this matter it is clear
that one cannot represent one stakeholder
group on the EC while actively participating
as part of the RySG on closed ICANN policy
processes. This is the clear difference vs
Rafik for example. Also I will note Farzi
serves as the formal NCUC liaison to the PIR
advisory council, a position that comes with
NCUC membership so I am not clear how an
NCUC position could be considered in
conflict with the NCUC?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The former EC took
the correct action here and has acted in a
professional and integral manner, pointing
out clearly the conflict of interest and
asking Peter to resign which he did. I hope
that everyone can agree that this situation
almost 1 year on should be left to close now
with Peter confirming that going forward he
will be representing the RySG.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">James</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Ncuc-discuss
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org"
target="_blank">ncuc-discuss-bounces@<wbr>lists.ncuc.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Herb Waye<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 12, 2017
11:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org"
target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ombudsman <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ombudsman@icann.org"
target="_blank">ombudsman@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] Statement
from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) Complaint
to Ombudsman</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find below a
statement from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green).
Attached is the initial request for his
resignation and his response. This statement
is in response to the statement posted by
the former NCUC EC on April 10, 2017. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Herb Waye</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN Ombudsman</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/ombudsman"
target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>ombudsman</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.facebook.com/ICANNOmbudsman"
target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr>ICANNOmbudsman</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Twitter:
@IcannOmbudsman</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN Expected
Standards of Behavior:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/expected-standards-15sep16-en.pdf"
target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/<wbr>system/files/files/expected-<wbr>standards-15sep16-en.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Community
Anti-Harassment Policy</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017-03-24-en"
target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/community-<wbr>anti-harassment-policy-2017-<wbr>03-24-en</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Confidentiality</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">All matters brought
before the Ombudsman shall be treated as
confidential. The Ombudsman shall also take
all reasonable steps necessary to preserve
the privacy of, and to avoid harm to, those
parties not involved in the complaint being
investigated by the Ombudsman.The Ombudsman
shall only make inquiries about, or advise
staff or Board members of the existence and
identity of, a complainant in order to
further the resolution of the complaint.
The Ombudsman shall take all reasonable
steps necessary to ensure that if staff and
Board members are made aware of the
existence and identity of a complainant,
they agree to maintain the confidential
nature of such information, except as
necessary to further the resolution of a
complaint</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Comments from Zuan
Zhang (Peter Green) on Former EC's Statement</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear NCUCers,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From August, 2016
to April, 2017, it’s been 8 months since I
took the case of the former NCUC EC’s
decision to ask me to resign from office to
the ICANN Ombudsman.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Time to speak.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">I assume it is
better to put all of the things on the table
and would like to have the whole picture for
our NCUC members to see the core of the
case, the nature of the case.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">On 1<sup>st</sup>,
August, 2016, I received a letter (please
see the attached Email 1) from the former
NCUC EC asking me to resign. In the letter,
the EC came to the conclusions that I was
not eligible to be a NCUC member, I am a
member of the Registries Stakeholder Group
(RySG) and I actively participated in the
work of RySG. Therefore, the EC decided to
remove me from the office.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">I replied to the
former EC acknowledging my receipt of the
letter. Then I was silent for a few days and
went back to hometown for family affairs.
When I returned to work, there were
discussions going on in the NCUC mailing
list. I found that there were divergent
views on my eligibility of being a NCUC
member among many of our NCUC veterans,
therefore I decided to take this case to the
ICANN Ombudsman and I made it very clear
that before the Ombudsman’s decision, I
would not take any action, hence long time
silence (please see the attached Email 2).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">However, I could
not imagine that the case had been going on
for so long. There were several rounds of
discussions among me, the Ombudsman and the
former EC until Rafik published the former
EC’s Statement on Monday. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">After rounds of
discussions, the former EC did not agree
with some views of the Ombudsman. Therefore,
the former EC released this Statement to
clarify their action.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Below are my
comments on the former EC’s Statement:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1. Issue of My
Eligibility of Being a NCUC Member.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">I could not
understand how the former EC had ever come
to the conclusion that I was not eligible to
be an NCUC member. I joined in NCSG/NCUC in
March, 2013 as an individual member with
registered domain names (one of them was
expired, currently holding an IDN domain
name</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:SimSun">钻</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">.</span><span
style="">我</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:SimSun">爱</span><span
style="">你</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">,
xn--h84a.xn--6qq986b3xl)for non-commercial
self-use in accordance with NCSG Charter and
NCUC Bylaws. I could not see how I am not
eligible to be an individual member of NCUC.
However, the former EC claimed that I am a
member of RySG. For your information, RySG
only consists of organizational
members—registries. My organization CONAC is
a member of RySG and two colleagues of mine
are serving as representatives of CONAC in
RySG. I was not listed as a representative
of CONAC in RySG at that time. The only fact
is I am staff of CONAC. Does the fact that I
am staff of CONAC and CONAC is a member of
RySG mean that I am a member of RySG? That’s
clearly not the case in accordance with the
RySG Charter. If it is not that case, I
could not see why the former EC came to such
a conclusion according to the NCUC Bylaws,
if not with a preconceived notion that staff
of a registry could be not individual
members of NCUC, however, the NCUC Bylaws
does not say so.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">On the other hand,
in the Statement the former EC also
mentioned that “[the former EC’s] request
for Peter to resign from the EC was not
caused by any misconduct or poor performance
on his part”, “[the former EC’s] main
concern has always been the integrity of the
NCUC”, “[t]his is designed to prevent
commercial or contracted parties from
attempting to control or influence [NCUC]
Constituency”. I do agree with maintaining
the integrity of NCUC. If the former EC’s
decision to remove me was not due to my
misconduct rather due to my relationship
with CONAC and CONAC’s relationship with
RySG, there are two other facts that deserve
attention. Rafik now works for NTT
Communications, a business company in Japan
and Farzaneh is serving as a member on the
Advisory Council of .org registry—PIR—a
registry. According to the circumstances of
my case, in order to preserve the integrity
of NCUC and prevent commercial or contracted
parties from controlling NCUC, does it mean
that the NCUC EC should consider removing
them from office due to their relationship
either with a business company or with a
registry, both of which are not committed to
non-commercial interests.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Authority Issue</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">It should be noted
that the CURRENT EFFECTIVE NCUC Bylaws does
not encompass terms or articles regarding
removing an incumbent EC member, as it was
mentioned in the former EC’s Statement that
“there was no precedent in NCUC’s history
for the EC to draw upon”. Therefore, the
former EC’s action to remove me from office
was not on basis of the NCUC Bylaws. There
is a gap in the NCUC Bylaws.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">It is just owing to
my case that NCUC found there is gap hence
necessity to include removing an incumbent
EC member in the revised NCUC Bylaws, see
email on 14<sup>th</sup>, October, 2016 at <a
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href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.ncuc.org_pipermail_ncuc-2Ddiscuss_2016-2DOctober_019237.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kIm7BGIl3qR3NKOfU-SwstwQr15K9OhllVGUWu0k8uc&m=kfPRSa6Hq7XVjsBTD1dYGMxfK7l5VIP7CJMsnltDDZw&s=9ClgqJhulZz6yY_JHgaWzghAeK0GuQZ9nwJwIfi4OKY&e="
target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/<wbr>pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2016-<wbr>October/019237.html[lists.<wbr>ncuc.org]</a>,
however, in his comment on the former EC’s
Statement, Professor Milton Mueller claimed
that “[t]he approval of the new bylaws
validates the actions of the EC by making it
unambiguous that the NCUC has the right to
remove from office people who are not
eligible.” Would you mind differentiating
the relationship between cause and effect?
Which is first? My case was before the
former EC’s intention to include terms of
removing an incumbent EC member in the new
NCUC Bylaws. Professor Milton is talking
about the effect of the approval of the
revised Bylaws. It seems Professor is
talking about the other side of the coin.
Unfortunately, two sides of a coin never
meet each other. I hope any effective
discussion should be on the same side of the
coin.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">3. Transparency
Issue.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The former EC sent
me a letter asking me to resign and claimed
that it was an EC decision. Were there any
EC meetings or records? I was removed only
due to email exchanges between members of
the former EC, without documentation.
Weren’t there transparency issues? In this
sense, it seemed that I was removed in a
non-transparent way with non-legitimate EC
authority (at the time the NCUC bylaws was
not revised, even if the NCUC bylaws was
revised, it is not effective now).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">With my comments, I
aim to have the whole picture on the table
for the NCUC members. I would not say the
case is moot or not. All of us could
comment.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">More importantly, I
see that my case has helped eliminate
ambiguities and gaps of the NCUC Bylaws,
though it severely affected my work in
NCSG/NCUC.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Community integrity
is important. Legitimacy and transparency is
also important.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you all!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Zuan Zhang (Peter
Green)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">(Note:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1. I would like to
reiterate that I have no intention to
participate in NCSG/NCUC because of the
effect on me and I will unsubscribe from the
NCSG/NCUC mailing list on 1<sup>st</sup>,
May 2017. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Due to the
effect of the case on me, after 8 months, in
late March, I asked to join RySG and was
listed as an alternate representative
(without voting rights) of CONAC in RySG to
start my ICANN journey. As I am still in
this case, I have reported my action to the
Ombudsman for record.)</span></p>
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