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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">It seems pretty clear
          to me.  I would add that Peter was on duty at the CONAC booth
          while attending Marakech.  This is nothing personal, it is
          just important that we keep things clear and stick to the
          rules.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards,
          Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-04-18 12:08, Remmy Nweke wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">James thanks for further efforts.
        <div dir="auto">Like you said this issue should come to a close.</div>
        <div dir="auto">With the  aforesaid evidence there is nothing
          more to add.</div>
        <div dir="auto">Regards​</div>
        <div dir="auto">Remmy</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Apr 2017 16:26, "James Gannon"
          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>
          wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">In
                    the interests of transparency I need to out myself
                    as one of the initial complainants, Peter was
                    clearly operating within ICANN as a representative
                    of CONAC representing a registry and not as stated
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">“My organization CONAC is a
                    member of RySG and two colleagues of mine are
                    serving as representatives of CONAC in RySG. I was
                    not listed as a representative of CONAC in RySG at
                    that time. The only fact is I am staff of CONAC”</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This
                    can be verified by visiting
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Drafting+Team#DraftingTeam-CompositionandAttendance"
                      target="_blank">
                      https://community.icann.org/<wbr>display/S1SF/Drafting+Team#<wbr>DraftingTeam-<wbr>CompositionandAttendance</a>
                    where one will find,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Zuan
                    Zhang - China Organizational Name Administration
                    Center (CONAC)”</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">listed
                    under registries. Additionally this team was closed
                    to all but contracted parties and the GAC as
                    confirmed to me by Fabien from ICANN staff.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white"> </span></p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">On 01/09/2015, 17:07, "Fabien
                  Betremieux" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org"
                    target="_blank">fabien.betremieux@icann.org</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
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                  style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>Hello James,</p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>Members of the Framework
                  Drafting Team are either representatives of
                </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>Registry Operator,
                  Registrars or Governments (GAC/PSWG). We don¹t have
                </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>a specific observer
                  status for other members of the community at this
                </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>point of our developments
                  (which started only recently).</p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>However, all developments
                  of the Drafting Team are public. You will
                </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>find all available
                  information on this workspace:</p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+Framework+Hom"
                    target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>display/S1SF/Spec+11+Security+<wbr>Framework+Hom</a></p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>e</p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>Let me know if you need
                  any additional information.</p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">> </p>
                <p class="m_-4991330741890849142MsoPlainText"
                  style="margin-left:.5in">>Best Regards</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So
                    as a complainant to the former EC on this matter it
                    is clear that one cannot represent one stakeholder
                    group on the EC while actively participating as part
                    of the RySG on closed ICANN policy processes. This
                    is the clear difference vs Rafik for example. Also I
                    will note Farzi serves as the formal NCUC liaison to
                    the PIR advisory council, a position that comes with
                    NCUC membership so I am not clear how an NCUC
                    position could be considered in conflict with the
                    NCUC?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The
                    former EC took the correct action here and has acted
                    in a professional and integral manner, pointing out
                    clearly the conflict of interest and asking Peter to
                    resign which he did. I hope that everyone can agree
                    that this situation almost 1 year on should be left
                    to close now with Peter confirming that going
                    forward he will be representing the RySG.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">James</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt"> Ncuc-discuss [mailto:<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org"
                          target="_blank">ncuc-discuss-bounces@<wbr>lists.ncuc.org</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Herb Waye<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:47 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org"
                          target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> ombudsman <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ombudsman@icann.org"
                          target="_blank">ombudsman@icann.org</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] Statement from
                        Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) Complaint to Ombudsman</span></p>
                  </div>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please
                    find below a statement from Zuan Zhang (Peter
                    Green). Attached is the initial request for his
                    resignation and his response. This statement is in
                    response to the statement posted by the former NCUC
                    EC on April 10, 2017. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Herb
                    Waye</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN
                    Ombudsman</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.icann.org/ombudsman"
                      target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>ombudsman</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.facebook.com/ICANNOmbudsman"
                      target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr>ICANNOmbudsman</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Twitter:
                    @IcannOmbudsman</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN
                    Expected Standards of Behavior:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/expected-standards-15sep16-en.pdf"
                      target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/<wbr>system/files/files/expected-<wbr>standards-15sep16-en.pdf</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Community
                    Anti-Harassment Policy</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017-03-24-en"
                      target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/community-<wbr>anti-harassment-policy-2017-<wbr>03-24-en</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Confidentiality</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All
                    matters brought before the Ombudsman shall be
                    treated as confidential.  The Ombudsman shall also
                    take all reasonable steps necessary to preserve the
                    privacy of, and to avoid harm to, those parties not
                    involved in the complaint being investigated by the
                    Ombudsman.The Ombudsman shall only make inquiries
                    about, or advise staff or Board members of the
                    existence and identity of, a complainant in order to
                    further the resolution of the complaint.  The
                    Ombudsman shall take all reasonable steps necessary
                    to ensure that if staff and Board members are made
                    aware of the existence and identity of a
                    complainant, they agree to maintain the confidential
                    nature of such information, except as necessary to
                    further the resolution of a complaint</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Comments
                    from Zuan Zhang (Peter Green) on Former EC's
                    Statement</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear
                    NCUCers,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From
                    August, 2016 to April, 2017, it’s been 8 months
                    since I took the case of the former NCUC EC’s
                    decision to ask me to resign from office to the
                    ICANN Ombudsman.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Time
                    to speak.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                    assume it is better to put all of the things on the
                    table and would like to have the whole picture for
                    our NCUC members to see the core of the case, the
                    nature of the case.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 1<sup>st</sup>,
                    August, 2016, I received a letter (please see the
                    attached Email 1) from the former NCUC EC asking me
                    to resign. In the letter, the EC came to the
                    conclusions that I was not eligible to be a NCUC
                    member, I am a member of the Registries Stakeholder
                    Group (RySG) and I actively participated in the work
                    of RySG. Therefore, the EC decided to remove me from
                    the office.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                    replied to the former EC acknowledging my receipt of
                    the letter. Then I was silent for a few days and
                    went back to hometown for family affairs. When I
                    returned to work, there were discussions going on in
                    the NCUC mailing list. I found that there were
                    divergent views on my eligibility of being a NCUC
                    member among many of our NCUC veterans, therefore I
                    decided to take this case to the ICANN Ombudsman and
                    I made it very clear that before the Ombudsman’s
                    decision, I would not take any action, hence long
                    time silence (please see the attached Email 2).</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">However,
                    I could not imagine that the case had been going on
                    for so long. There were several rounds of
                    discussions among me, the Ombudsman and the former
                    EC until Rafik published the former EC’s Statement
                    on Monday. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">After
                    rounds of discussions, the former EC did not agree
                    with some views of the Ombudsman. Therefore, the
                    former EC released this Statement to clarify their
                    action.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Below
                    are my comments on the former EC’s Statement:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1.
                    Issue of My Eligibility of Being a NCUC Member.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                    could not understand how the former EC had ever come
                    to the conclusion that I was not eligible to be an
                    NCUC member. I joined in NCSG/NCUC in March, 2013 as
                    an individual member with registered domain names
                    (one of them was expired, currently holding an IDN
                    domain name</span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:SimSun">钻</span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt">.</span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS
                    Gothic"">我</span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:SimSun">爱</span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS
                    Gothic"">你</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">,
                    xn--h84a.xn--6qq986b3xl)for non-commercial self-use
                    in accordance with NCSG Charter and NCUC Bylaws.
                    I could not see how I am not eligible to be an
                    individual member of NCUC. However, the former EC
                    claimed that I am a member of RySG. For your
                    information, RySG only consists of organizational
                    members—registries. My organization CONAC is a
                    member of RySG and two colleagues of mine are
                    serving as representatives of CONAC in RySG. I was
                    not listed as a representative of CONAC in RySG at
                    that time. The only fact is I am staff of CONAC.
                    Does the fact that I am staff of CONAC and CONAC is
                    a member of RySG mean that I am a member of RySG?
                    That’s clearly not the case in accordance with the
                    RySG Charter. If it is not that case, I could not
                    see why the former EC came to such a conclusion
                    according to the NCUC Bylaws, if not with a
                    preconceived notion that staff of a registry could
                    be not individual members of NCUC, however, the NCUC
                    Bylaws does not say so.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
                    the other hand, in the Statement the former EC also
                    mentioned that “[the former EC’s] request for Peter
                    to resign from the EC was not caused by any
                    misconduct or poor performance on his part”, “[the
                    former EC’s] main concern has always been the
                    integrity of the NCUC”, “[t]his is designed to
                    prevent commercial or contracted parties from
                    attempting to control or influence [NCUC]
                    Constituency”. I do agree with maintaining the
                    integrity of NCUC. If the former EC’s decision to
                    remove me was not due to my misconduct rather due to
                    my relationship with CONAC and CONAC’s relationship
                    with RySG, there are two other facts that deserve
                    attention. Rafik now works for NTT Communications, a
                    business company in Japan and Farzaneh is serving as
                    a member on the Advisory Council of .org
                    registry—PIR—a registry. According to the
                    circumstances of my case, in order to preserve the
                    integrity of NCUC and prevent commercial or
                    contracted parties from controlling NCUC, does it
                    mean that the NCUC EC should consider removing them
                    from office due to their relationship either with a
                    business company or with a registry, both of which
                    are not committed to non-commercial interests.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2.
                    Authority Issue</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It
                    should be noted that the CURRENT EFFECTIVE NCUC
                    Bylaws does not encompass terms or articles
                    regarding removing an incumbent EC member, as it was
                    mentioned in the former EC’s Statement that “there
                    was no precedent in NCUC’s history for the EC to
                    draw upon”. Therefore, the former EC’s action to
                    remove me from office was not on basis of the NCUC
                    Bylaws. There is a gap in the NCUC Bylaws.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It
                    is just owing to my case that NCUC found there is
                    gap hence necessity to include removing an incumbent
                    EC member in the revised NCUC Bylaws, see email on
                    14<sup>th</sup>, October, 2016 at <a
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                    however, in his comment on the former EC’s
                    Statement, Professor Milton Mueller claimed that
                    “[t]he approval of the new bylaws validates the
                    actions of the EC by making it unambiguous that the
                    NCUC has the right to remove from office people who
                    are not eligible.” Would you mind differentiating
                    the relationship between cause and effect? Which is
                    first? My case was before the former EC’s intention
                    to include terms of removing an incumbent EC member
                    in the new NCUC Bylaws. Professor Milton is talking
                    about the effect of the approval of the revised
                    Bylaws. It seems Professor is talking about the
                    other side of the coin. Unfortunately, two sides of
                    a coin never meet each other. I hope any effective
                    discussion should be on the same side of the coin.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3.
                    Transparency Issue.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The
                    former EC sent me a letter asking me to resign and
                    claimed that it was an EC decision. Were there any
                    EC meetings or records? I was removed only due to
                    email exchanges between members of the former EC,
                    without documentation. Weren’t there transparency
                    issues? In this sense, it seemed that I was removed
                    in a non-transparent way with non-legitimate EC
                    authority (at the time the NCUC bylaws was not
                    revised, even if the NCUC bylaws was revised, it is
                    not effective now).</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">With
                    my comments, I aim to have the whole picture on the
                    table for the NCUC members. I would not say the case
                    is moot or not. All of us could comment.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">More
                    importantly, I see that my case has helped eliminate
                    ambiguities and gaps of the NCUC Bylaws, though it
                    severely affected my work in NCSG/NCUC.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Community
                    integrity is important. Legitimacy and transparency
                    is also important.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank
                    you all!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                    Regards</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Zuan
                    Zhang (Peter Green)</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">(Note:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. I
                    would like to reiterate that I have no intention to
                    participate in NCSG/NCUC because of the effect on me
                    and I will unsubscribe from the NCSG/NCUC mailing
                    list on 1<sup>st</sup>, May 2017. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2.
                    Due to the effect of the case on me, after 8 months,
                    in late March, I asked to join RySG and was listed
                    as an alternate representative (without voting
                    rights) of CONAC in RySG to start my ICANN journey.
                    As I am still in this case, I have reported my
                    action to the Ombudsman for record.)</span></p>
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