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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:05 AM, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Farzaneh,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I attended only one DNS forum last year in Tunis and I cannot speak about other regional DNS.</div><div class="gmail_extra">I organized a session there about Civil society in ICANN to introduce NCSG etc. the program is usually focused on DNS industry and challenges in the region such new gTLD or registrar business. However, I think we can propose as NCUC a session about non-commercial registrants concerns that you mentioned and we can liaise with the ICANN regional VPs for that purpose. I don't think there was any concern about any sensitive topic. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-01 6:56 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you Michael. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am not really sure if all right-based issues are controversial in certain regions. For example, many of the noncommercial registrants (or even commercial ones) don't know whom to go to when they have a dispute over their domain name (due process). They don't know how they should respond to copyright claims. Sometimes even ccTLDs use WIPO dispute resolution mechanism which is held in English. So imagine an Iranian registrant of <a href="http://ncuc.ir" target="_blank">ncuc.ir</a> that has to go to WIPO and file a dispute in English. (example only)</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Many rights of the noncommercial registrants can be discussed and protected by NCUC at ICANN and they do not raise domestic controversy but also help the noncommercial registrant users domestically. I think it would be good to start a conversation about which rights are less politically sensitive and need protection and add this to DNS forums that are held in various regions. Or maybe a stand alone event would do too if DNS Forum is sacred. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-3904430003233812314m_-356369347029594776gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Michael Oghia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike.oghia@gmail.com" target="_blank">mike.oghia@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Farzi,<div><br></div><div>I've attended the Turkey DNS Forum for two years now, and while some issues like governance and legality have been addressed, the vast majority of the issues that fall within the remit of the NCUC has not been covered. In their defense, however, the political environment is unfortunately not currently conducive to rights-based issues in Turkey, and I don't know what the demand is for non-technical ICANN policies either. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-3904430003233812314m_-356369347029594776m_6895186976054046700gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Best,</font></div><div><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">-Michael<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">__________________</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Michael J. Oghia</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://igmena.org/" target="_blank">iGmena</a> communications manager<br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Independent #netgov consultant & editor</span><br></div><div><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Belgrade, Serbia<br></font></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Skype: mikeoghia<br></font></div></div><div><font size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><a href="https://www.twitter.com/MikeOghia" target="_blank">Twitter</a></font> <b>|</b> <font color="#0000ff"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeoghia" target="_blank">LinkedIn<br></a></font></font></div></div>
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Committees of the Benin DNS Forum held f</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px;color:#333333"><span style="font-size:14px">rom October 13 to 15,
2016 in Cotonou </span></span><span style="color:#333333;font-size:14px">are pleased
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a</span></span><span style="font-size:14px;color:#333333">nd
Security around </span><span style="font-size:14px;color:#333333">the DNS".</span></strong></span></p>
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perspectives are opening up to help to sustain the
achievements of the past editions. These include
projects on the DNS, among others: the
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Internet infrastructure and a study on the
resilience of the DNS in Benin to be presented
during the next Forum to take place in 2017.</span></p>
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