<div>Ah, thank you for this. That's useful. I was thinking that if we submit multiple proposals, we might hedge our bets and hopefully get awarded one. But I suppose one well-developed submission, which we can speak knowledgeably about, and where we likely will have speakers lined up, would seem a more sensible approach... So unless there are any objections from the EC (or other members) I will take your advice and just submit #5. Bill, if you could please ask Fiona and Torbjörn if they would be comfortable having their names included in the proposal, I would be very appreciative! Thank you.<br><br>Matt - will you be at WSIS? Would you be interested in speaking on topic #5 as a panelist? Thanks</div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block "><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user "><div>- Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Deadline for WSIS proposals is tomorrow - here are some ideas for the NCUC to consider proposing<br></div><div>Local Time: 1 March 2017 1:51 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 1 March 2017 13:51<br></div><div>From: mshears@cdt.org<br></div><div>To: William Drake <william.drake@uzh.ch>, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com><br></div><div>NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><p>I would suggest 2 max - with # 5 being one of them.<br></p><div><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2017 08:51, William Drake
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Ayden <br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Ok thanks, but I’m not sure I understand what you’re
doing. If you send Gitanjali more than one proposal it’s not
obvious you thereby increase the chances of acceptance given the
limited number of slots and the way they plan the agenda. Most
of the slots will go to groups doing ICT4D. And five is a lot
more than one…they might come back and say which of these do you
want. <br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">BTW I confirmed today that if you build #5 Chinmayi
will come. Anriette not sure.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Bill<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2017, at 13:55, Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class=""><div>Thanks for your comments, Bill, and for the
panelist suggestions. That was incredibly useful. I like
your idea, so I’ve put together a new proposal (<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing" title="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="">#5 in the Google Doc</a>)
which meshes together the two workshops that the NCUC
hosted at the IGF in 2013 and 2016, and, if it is
accepted by the ITU, I will come back to this list and
find a way to add a splash of originality to the
proposal… and provided you have no scheduling conflicts
I think you’d make an excellent panelist here, too!<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Thanks again,<br></div><div> Ayden<br></div></div><div class=" protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton
protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div class=""><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div class="">-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div class="">Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Deadline for
WSIS proposals is tomorrow - here are some ideas for
the NCUC to consider proposing<br></div><div class="">Local Time: 1 March 2017 6:56 AM<br></div><div class="">UTC Time: 1 March 2017 06:56<br></div><div class="">From: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br></div><div class="">To: Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br></div><div class="">farzaneh badii <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>,
NCUC-discuss <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Hi<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Afterthoughts (I’m still on my first cup
of coffee so thinking slowly)<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2017, at 07:35, William
Drake <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Verdana;
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">With a
topic like this, you don’t have to worry about
getting the precisely right blend of expertise,
as per Farzi’s comment on your first proposal
below. All of us can talk about the role and
contributions of CS in ICANN or IG generally.
You could just toss in names of people who’ll
be there, and if you decide later you want a
different mix tweak if after it’s accepted. I
assume you and Renata plan to attend, and I
expect to be doing another WS and could speak to
this if you like. Not sure who else is coming
but you could poll quickly and send such a thing
by COB.<br></div><div class=""><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Fiona Alexander from the US NTIA will be
there for the workshop I’m doing and is a strong
supporter of civil society & multistakeholder, so
I could probably rope her in.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Anriette Esterhuysen usually comes to WSIS
Forum and would have a lot to say.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Chinmayi Arun from the Centre for
Communication Governance in India usually comes and
could speak to CS @ IG.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Torbjörn Fredriksson is the Head of the
ICT Analysis Section at the United Nations Conference
on Trade and Development and also will be on my WS,
and he’s interested in CS engagement at UNCTAD and
more generally on Internet stuff, could share
experiences from another organizational context.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">And if you put such folks, esp. USG and
UNCTAD, on the panel, the chances of ITU turning down
the proposal decline methinks.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Best<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Bill<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><br></div></blockquote><div class=""><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
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