<div>Thank you so much for this feedback, Tanya. <br><br>Regarding the DNS and content control proposal, I share your view on the need to raise awareness on this topic. This is a critically important issue, and WSIS attracts a very different crowd to other fora which I think can work to our advantage. We also have more of a sphere of influence around who we would invite to speak on the panel, so I think the danger of an ‘ambush’ or avalanche of loaded questions is reduced compared with other settings. That said, if this proposal was accepted there would be a heavy load of prep required, and a need for reinforcement from the likes of yourself, Robin, Kathy, Jeremy, or Mitch…<br><br>Regarding the WHOIS proposal, I think it aligns well with the SDGs and WSIS action lines, but the challenge would be in sourcing suitable speakers. Domain name registrars and registries do not really engage with WSIS, nor do registrants. We don’t want the workshop to be a talking shop; I would think that we would want a workshop that informs and educates the vulnerable and those who work with the vulnerable on how they can protect themselves from shame, anger, and threats when they register domain names. I believe it can be done; there’s just a lot of work ahead. <br><br>(I should also clarify: at this stage I am just working to submit workshop proposals in the hope that the NCUC is again invited to host a workshop at WSIS. I am not necessarily looking to take the workshops forward myself, especially if someone else from the NCUC would like to, as I think that’s a call that the EC should make, but equally I’d be happy to do so where I am qualified. Thanks!)<br><br>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block "><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user "><div>Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div><a title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Deadline for WSIS proposals is tomorrow - here are some ideas for the NCUC to consider proposing<br></div><div>Local Time: 1 March 2017 12:56 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 1 March 2017 00:56<br></div><div>From: t.tropina@mpicc.de<br></div><div>To: ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org<br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><p>Ayden,<br></p><p>sorry I missed this thread - as much as I would love to take part
in drafting, I have been working non stop (till 2 am now) and had
a couple ICANN calls in the evening. Sorry for missing this
option. Thanks so much to you and Renata for taking the initiative
and working on this! <br></p><p>I would like to quickly echo Farzy's comment a bit, but develop
further:<br></p><p>Proposal 1. While it is a highly sensitive topic, I think it is
totally worth the submission! Yes, there will be a need for
experts on this issue, but we can also learn from our RightsCon
experience how the discussion could be shaped, what would one need
to make such a workshop a success. If this would be considered
carefully - not only we will be able to contribute to the
discussion and advance it, but also raise awareness on this issue.
The latter is no less important! I totally support this
submission. <br></p><p>Agree with Farz on proposal 2 (WHOIS) - probably the most likely
to get accepted and go well as you are actively involved in this. <br></p><p>With under-served regions the scheme could be the same as with
RightsCon - learn from other sessions at other events (GAC session
at ICANN 58, etc), see how it could be advanced if the proposal is
accepted. I think it does have potential to be accepted as it
seems to fit strongly in both WSIS overarching theme and action
lines. <br></p><p>Again - very well done, many thanks! <br></p><p>Cheers<br></p><p>Tanya <br></p><div><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/02/17 23:09, farzaneh badii
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Ayden, <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">thanks for this. As to
proposal 1: At RightsCon NCUC is going to hold a workshop that
is more or less similar. Proposal one in this document is
highly sensitive and you need to have the experts in the field
present during the session to be able to advance the
discussion.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Proposal 2 seems to be
about privacy and WHOIS. Highlight that more and highlight its
relevance to the work of ICANN in the beginning. I think this
proposal has the most potential and you know a lot about it.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have added more
comments in the document about the other proposals. If we want
to talk about underserved regions, we have to at least make
the connection between ICANN/NCUC work and this topic. (GAC
will have a session about underserved regions at ICANN 58)<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Ayden
Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks, Remmy. I think even if were wildly optimistic,
we would only get one or two thematic workshop ideas
accepted. But the UN works in mysterious ways... ;-)<br></div><span class="HOEnZb"><span class="colour" style="color:#888888"><div><br></div><div class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>- Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-proton
m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div></span></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Deadline for WSIS
proposals is tomorrow - here are some ideas for the
NCUC to consider proposing<br></div><div>Local Time: 28 February 2017 9:53 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 28 February 2017 21:53<br></div><div>From: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com">remmyn@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>To: Ayden Férdeline <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br></div><div>NCUC-discuss <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>Excellent job there @Ayden and @Renata<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My only fear is if hosting 5
sessions will not be too much.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Good work<br></div><div dir="auto">Remmy<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Feb 28, 2017 10:35 PM, "Ayden Férdeline"
<<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Greetings,
all-<br></div><div><br></div><div>The
next World Summit on the Information Society
(WSIS) will be held in Geneva from
12 to 16 June. <b>The deadline for workshop
proposals is tomorrow.</b><br></div><div><br></div><div>Last
year, the NCUC hosted a highly successful
thematic workshop at WSIS on engaging
un-represented and under-represented
communities in local, national, regional,
and global Internet governance debates. The
session was closely tied with
Sustainable Development Goal 17 of the UN’s
2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
I was pleased to coordinate this event in
conjunction with Renata Aquino
Ribeiro, and we had a broad range of
speakers from our stakeholder group
(including the NCUC’s James Gannon and
NPOC’s Klaus Stoll) along with
panellists from the business, end-user, and
technical communities. In the
audience at our session was an ICANN board
member, Markus Kummer, ICANN staff
and community members, and high-level
government officials and civil society
representatives. Our panel had a gender
balance, the most remote participants
of any WSIS workshop, and featured in the
official outcome document of the
event. Privately it has been communicated to
us that the workshop would be welcomed
at WSIS again this year, but more on that in
a moment…<br></div><div><br></div><div>This
was not the extent of the NCUC’s engagement
at WSIS last year. Bill Drake
moderated an insightful session on Internet
fragmentation, with NCUC members
Anriette Esterhuysen and Wolfgang
Kleinwächter among the panellists. Anriette
moderated
a session on advancing Internet governance
principles and practices, with NCUC
members Avri Doria and Bill Drake among the
panellists. The Cross-Community
Working Group on Internet Governance had a
session on the IANA transition
moderated by Matthew Shears with speakers
including the NCUC’s Tatiana Tropina.
Offsite, Tatiana, Matt, and I spoke at an
event organised by the Geneva
Internet Platform on how civil society
actors can get involved in policymaking
at ICANN and potentially shape the future of
the Domain Name System. And NPOC's Adela
Goberna spoke eloquently during the Opening
Ceremony's high-level dialogue on the WSIS
Action Lines and the SDGs. <br></div><div><br></div><div><div>In my opinion, the stage is set for
further NCUC
engagement in WSIS. With the benefit of
hindsight, it would have been helpful to
‘crowd source’ a theme a few months ago
and to catalyse community
involvement sooner so that we could submit
a workshop proposal on a topic which
we as the NCUC care deeply about. Alas,
with the deadline for workshop
proposals being tomorrow, that isn’t
feasible now (the failure was mine
for not suggesting that we do this
sooner), so instead <b>Renata and I have
drafted a few workshop proposals for the
NCUC to consider submitting</b>. <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing" title="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">Here’s a link to them on
Google Docs.</a> Your comments and
suggestions on how the NCUC can become
more involved in creating and exchanging
knowledge that helps realise the WSIS
action lines is warmly welcomed, and
please also feel free to suggest an
alternative proposal if you do think what
Renata
and I have drafted is not suitable.
Thanks! <br></div><div><br></div><div>(Renata and I were planning on
submitting all the ideas for workshops
that we can think of, and if any are
accepted by the International
Telecommunications Union, coming back to
the EC to ask if it is something the NCUC
would like to carry forward and host under
its moniker, and if the response is in the
affirmative, then coming back to this list
to further develop the proposal in a more
collaborative manner.)<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block-user"><div><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br></div></div><div class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block-proton
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