<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <p>Ayden,</p>
    <p>sorry I missed this thread - as much as I would love to take part
      in drafting, I have been working non stop (till 2 am now) and had
      a couple ICANN calls in the evening. Sorry for missing this
      option. Thanks so much to you and Renata for taking the initiative
      and working on this! <br>
    </p>
    <p>I would like to quickly echo Farzy's comment a bit, but develop
      further:</p>
    <p>Proposal 1. While it is a highly sensitive topic, I think it is
      totally worth the submission! Yes, there will be a need for
      experts on this issue, but we can also learn from our RightsCon
      experience how the discussion could be shaped, what would one need
      to make such a workshop a success. If this would be considered
      carefully - not only we will be able to contribute to the
      discussion and advance it, but also raise awareness on this issue.
      The latter is no less important! I totally support this
      submission. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Agree with Farz on proposal 2 (WHOIS) - probably the most likely
      to get accepted and go well as you are actively involved in this.
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>With under-served regions the scheme could be the same as with
      RightsCon - learn from other sessions at other events (GAC session
      at ICANN 58, etc), see how it could be advanced if the proposal is
      accepted. I think it does have potential to be accepted as it
      seems to fit strongly in both WSIS overarching theme and action
      lines. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Again - very well done, many thanks! <br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers</p>
    <p>Tanya <br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/02/17 23:09, farzaneh badii
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAN1qJvAdcazhyShbgyiARruQUwOusmWgUbmVFShVwZrXLUEp0Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Ayden, </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">thanks for this. As to
          proposal 1: At RightsCon NCUC is going to hold a workshop that
          is more or less similar. Proposal one in this document is
          highly sensitive and you need to have the experts in the field
          present during the session to be able to advance the
          discussion.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Proposal 2 seems to be
          about privacy and WHOIS. Highlight that more and highlight its
          relevance to the work of ICANN in the beginning. I think this
          proposal has the most potential and you know a lot about it.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have added more
          comments in the document about the other proposals. If we want
          to talk about underserved regions, we have to at least make
          the connection between ICANN/NCUC work and this topic. (GAC
          will have a session about underserved regions at ICANN 58)</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Ayden
          Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div>Thanks, Remmy. I think even if were wildly optimistic,
              we would only get one or two thematic workshop ideas
              accepted. But the UN works in mysterious ways... ;-)</div>
            <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div
                  class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block">
                  <div
                    class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-user">
                    <div>- Ayden <br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-proton
m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </font></span>
            <div class="HOEnZb">
              <div class="h5">
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite"
                  class="m_-1517152195806027465protonmail_quote">
                  <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Deadline for WSIS
                    proposals is tomorrow - here are some ideas for the
                    NCUC to consider proposing<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Local Time: 28 February 2017 9:53 PM<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>UTC Time: 28 February 2017 21:53<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>To: Ayden Férdeline <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>NCUC-discuss <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org"
                      target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="auto">
                    <div>Excellent job there @Ayden and @Renata<br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">My only fear is if hosting 5
                      sessions will not be too much.<br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">Good work<br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">Remmy<br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="gmail_extra">
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                      <div>On Feb 28, 2017 10:35 PM, "Ayden Férdeline"
                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noreferrer
                          nofollow noopener"
                          href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                          target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
                        0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                        solid;padding-left:1ex">
                        <div>
                          <div>Greetings,
                            all-<br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>The
                            next World Summit on the Information Society
                            (WSIS) will be held in Geneva from
                            12 to 16 June. <b>The deadline for workshop
                              proposals is tomorrow.</b><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Last
                            year, the NCUC hosted a highly successful
                            thematic workshop at WSIS on engaging
                            un-represented and under-represented
                            communities in local, national, regional,
                            and global Internet governance debates. The
                            session was closely tied with
                            Sustainable Development Goal 17 of the UN’s
                            2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
                            I was pleased to coordinate this event in
                            conjunction with Renata Aquino
                            Ribeiro, and we had a broad range of
                            speakers from our stakeholder group
                            (including the NCUC’s James Gannon and
                            NPOC’s Klaus Stoll) along with
                            panellists from the business, end-user, and
                            technical communities. In the
                            audience at our session was an ICANN board
                            member, Markus Kummer, ICANN staff
                            and community members, and high-level
                            government officials and civil society
                            representatives. Our panel had a gender
                            balance, the most remote participants
                            of any WSIS workshop, and featured in the
                            official outcome document of the
                            event. Privately it has been communicated to
                            us that the workshop would be welcomed
                            at WSIS again this year, but more on that in
                            a moment…<br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>This
                            was not the extent of the NCUC’s engagement
                            at WSIS last year. Bill Drake
                            moderated an insightful session on Internet
                            fragmentation, with NCUC members
                            Anriette Esterhuysen and Wolfgang
                            Kleinwächter among the panellists. Anriette
                            moderated
                            a session on advancing Internet governance
                            principles and practices, with NCUC
                            members Avri Doria and Bill Drake among the
                            panellists. The Cross-Community
                            Working Group on Internet Governance had a
                            session on the IANA transition
                            moderated by Matthew Shears with speakers
                            including the NCUC’s Tatiana Tropina.
                            Offsite, Tatiana, Matt, and I spoke at an
                            event organised by the Geneva
                            Internet Platform on how civil society
                            actors can get involved in policymaking
                            at ICANN and potentially shape the future of
                            the Domain Name System. And NPOC's Adela
                            Goberna spoke eloquently during the Opening
                            Ceremony's high-level dialogue on the WSIS
                            Action Lines and the SDGs.  <br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>In my opinion, the stage is set for
                              further NCUC
                              engagement in WSIS. With the benefit of
                              hindsight, it would have been helpful to
                              ‘crowd source’ a theme a few months ago
                              and to catalyse community
                              involvement sooner so that we could submit
                              a workshop proposal on a topic which
                              we as the NCUC care deeply about. Alas,
                              with the deadline for workshop
                              proposals being tomorrow, that isn’t
                              feasible now (the failure was mine
                              for not suggesting that we do this
                              sooner), so instead <b>Renata and I have
                                drafted a few workshop proposals for the
                                NCUC to consider submitting</b>. <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing"
title="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3AyMelaMuQJmI4odYFZK7b-O-fjKEE_UqzQ9NuzGvI/edit?usp=sharing"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank">Here’s a link to them on
                                Google Docs.</a> Your comments and
                              suggestions on how the NCUC can become
                              more involved in creating and exchanging
                              knowledge that helps realise the WSIS
                              action lines is warmly welcomed, and
                              please also feel free to suggest an
                              alternative proposal if you do think what
                              Renata
                              and I have drafted is not suitable.
                              Thanks! <br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>(Renata and I were planning on
                              submitting all the ideas for workshops
                              that we can think of, and if any are
                              accepted by the International
                              Telecommunications Union, coming back to
                              the EC to ask if it is something the NCUC
                              would like to carry forward and host under
                              its moniker, and if the response is in the
                              affirmative, then coming back to this list
                              to further develop the proposal in a more
                              collaborative manner.)<br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Best wishes,<br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Ayden Férdeline<br>
                        </div>
                        <div
class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block">
                          <div
class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block-user">
                            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline"
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div
class="m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block-proton
m_-1517152195806027465m_1307131315512179886protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                        </div>
                        <div> Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br>
                        </div>
                        <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="noreferrer
                            nofollow noopener"
                            href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org"
                            target="_blank">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
                        </div>
                        <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss"
                            rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                            target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>
                        </div>
                        <div> <br>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <div><br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
            ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
            Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Ncuc-discuss mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>