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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with the
below. I think it is important to emphasize the positive
nature of our contributions, not ask embarrassing or uncomfortable
questions. Fine to point out difficult problems, as long as
we can answer that key response question, "so what do you
think we should do about it?"</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-02-07 04:32, matthew shears
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sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Your
primary goal in this talk should be to make sure
the new CEO understands who and what NCUC is, to
solicit information from him about what attitudes
(prejudices?) and perceptions he has about us,
correcting any misperceptions he might have. So I
would come up with some basic talking points about
that. You need to make it clear why it is
absolutely essential that the GNSO continue to be
structured in a way that balances commercial and
noncommercial and contracted and non-contracted
parties, and why board and GAC interference with
GNSO consensus policies after the fact is a bad
thing.</span></div>
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Agree. While I think he has some sense of what we’re about
already, given prior discussions, it’d be good to lock it
the desired framing. And to invite him to Constituency Day.<br
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sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">As
a secondary priority, you might discuss the
prohibition on content regulation and how we think
the use of PICs might circumvent that. </span></div>
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Agree<br>
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could emphasize our belief that in the new
accountability arrangements, ACs such as ALAC were
given too much power relative to the much larger
and more diverse set of stakeholders in the GNSO,
and how a ALAC/GAC alliance in certain bylaw
disputes might thwart attempts to keep ICANN
constrained within its mission.</span></div>
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Unless my memory is foggy this morning we were not in
uniform agreement on these points, so if there’s time to get
into them it maybe qualified them as “some members are
concerned that..”.</div>
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Also, and while I largely agree with this, what is the point of
bringing this up? Are we asking for some review of the
Accountability mechanisms? Are we asking him to keep an eye on
their possible collusion? If I were Goran I would say - and so
what do you think should be done about this? <br>
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Agree with Bill's qualification.<br>
<br>
Matthew<br>
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meeting with the ICANN CEO next week. If you
would like me to discuss a topic with him,
please share it on this list by 10 Feb. Since
this is a 30 minute talk I cannot cover
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