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    <p>Hi - inline<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/02/2017 10:19, William Drake
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                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Your
                    primary goal in this talk should be to make sure the
                    new CEO understands who and what NCUC is, to solicit
                    information from him about what attitudes
                    (prejudices?) and perceptions he has about us,
                    correcting any misperceptions he might have. So I
                    would come up with some basic talking points about
                    that. You need to make it clear why it is absolutely
                    essential that the GNSO continue to be structured in
                    a way that balances commercial and noncommercial and
                    contracted and non-contracted parties, and why board
                    and GAC interference with GNSO consensus policies
                    after the fact is a bad thing.</span></div>
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          Agree.  While I think he has some sense of what we’re about
          already, given prior discussions, it’d be good to lock it the
          desired framing.  And to invite him to Constituency Day.<br
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                    secondary priority, you might discuss the
                    prohibition on content regulation and how we think
                    the use of PICs might circumvent that. </span></div>
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    Agree<br>
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                    could emphasize our belief that in the new
                    accountability arrangements, ACs such as ALAC were
                    given too much power relative to the much larger and
                    more diverse set of stakeholders in the GNSO, and
                    how a ALAC/GAC alliance in certain bylaw disputes
                    might thwart attempts to keep ICANN constrained
                    within its mission.</span></div>
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          Unless my memory is foggy this morning we were not in uniform
          agreement on these points, so if there’s time to get into them
          it maybe qualified them as “some members are concerned
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    Also, and while I largely agree with this, what is the point of
    bringing this up?  Are we asking for some review of the
    Accountability mechanisms?  Are we asking him  to keep an eye on
    their possible collusion?   If I were Goran I would say - and so
    what do you think should be done about this?  <br>
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    Agree with Bill's qualification.<br>
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                        Meeting with ICANN CEO<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                        with the ICANN CEO next week. If you would like
                        me to discuss a topic with him, please share it
                        on this list by 10 Feb. Since this is a 30
                        minute talk I cannot cover everything but I will
                        try my best to at least mention some of the
                        suggested topic briefly. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                          Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br
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