<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Farzi</div>
<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 18, 2016, at 14:04, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks. CCWG-IG Public session has normally been a panel  discussion to tell people about Internet governance issues. I don't think for this meeting we need that. We need a public session on what the ccwg-ig needs to do and what it actually is. So the focus should be on ccwg-ig activities. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Ok so you’re not objecting to the public IG session being listed as a High Interest Topic but rather to having a public IG session at all, on the grounds that it’s a distraction from the public working group meeting that’s always held in parallel.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Of course if there are discussions on IG, I presume anyone could submit a HIT or a discussion. Doesn't have to be ccwg-ig. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Maybe one way to get past the push back from those who are saying they want one is to have staff (Nigel and Tarek) organize it like they used to, on a one time basis...<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""></div></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I think we should stop temporarily having panel discussions on IG issues ( for Copenhagen) get our mandate and charter sorted and see what we want to focus on.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>That certainly should be the priority, the problem has always been the structural barrier, as discussed previously.  Hope it works.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bill</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 December 2016 at 02:53, William Drake <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Hi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Understood. The public IG session is a long time fixture on the meeting program and antedates the CCWIG which demanded to take it over from staff, and this is always additional to the working session. The only change last time was labeling the public session a HIT, which adds no particular value.  Or do you mean you object to the public session itself?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Sent from my iPad</div></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class="">On Dec 17, 2016, at 16:47, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Thank you Bill <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I am the NCSG representative to that group and I would like to object to have a high interest session in Copenhagen.  We should bear in mind that we have to work on changing ccwg ig charter and make it more relevant. A HIT is only a one time session (which with a lot of good work of volunteers turned out to be great last meeting) and does not build up the ccwg ig. So I'm going to object and will inform ncsg about our future actions. I prefer to have a constructive working session. I see if I get support on that and revert to NCSG. </div><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 Dec 2016 05:15, "William Drake" <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="m_-7179685500854329591quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I’m taking the liberty of forwarding a message Olivier sent to the CCW-IG, which is of relevance to prior discussions here of high interest topics etc.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bill<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="m_-7179685500854329591m_-4407527154460698617Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helv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    You'll notice that our Internet Governance Public Session was the
    least attended session of the High Interest Topics. That said, it
    was late in the day, thus would have lost headcount. <br class="">
    <br class="">
    The deadline for Hit Interest Topic Session proposals is on Friday
    23rd Dec 2016, so we need to file a request this week. Any
    suggestions?<br class="">
    <br class="">
    Kindest regards,<br class="">
    <br class="">
    Olivier<br class="">
    <br class="">
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