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<div>When I redesigned the website last year (which wasn’t put into production in the end) I went with the simple simple approach </div>
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<div>Although some suggested that the globe should probably be turned away from north america =)</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold;">From: </span>Ncuc-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss-bounces@lists. ncuc.org</a>> on behalf of Zakir Syed via Ncuc-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br clear="none">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Reply-To: </span>Zakir Syed <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com">zakirbinrehman@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Date: </span>Wednesday 14 December 2016 at 22:44<br clear="none">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">To: </span>farzaneh badii <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>, Corinne Cath <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:corinnecath@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:corinnecath@gmail.com">corinnecath@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc: </span>William Drake <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>, NCUC-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><div><div class="yiv6827616376h5"><br clear="none">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject: </span>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Logo - Ideas and designers out there?<br clear="none">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> farzaneh badii <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> William Drake <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>; NCUC-discuss <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:12 PM<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv6827616376m_7942698962728218123yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481635027945_108325">I think coming up with key words representative of NCUC work is a great idea. You can also send keywords. <br clear="none">
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On 14 December 2016 at 08:57, Corinne Cath <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:corinnecath@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:corinnecath@gmail.com">corinnecath@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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I figured as much - perhaps we can do it the other way around and think of some key words we believe the NCUC represents & ask a designer to make some sketches? Best,<br clear="none">
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<div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Thanks for suggesting this. I agree that a logo would be good, but perhaps move away from the Tullip as it is also a national symbol for the Dutch (eventhough we stole it from the Turkish) and towards something
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