<div><div>Corinne,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for this. This is an excellent starting point. I have added a few comments to your text but overwhelmingly I support your positions. In particular, decentralising the role of the Ombudsperson in resolving complains of harassment strikes me as a better path forward. Now that the IGF has ended, I will endeavour to expand upon this draft by our internal deadline of Thursday.<br><br>Best wishes,</div></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block "><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user "><div>Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN Community Anti-Harassment Policy: Summary of Discussion So Far<br></div><div>Local Time: 7 December 2016 7:27 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 7 December 2016 19:27<br></div><div>From: corinnecath@gmail.com<br></div><div>To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com><br></div><div>ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org <ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><div>Dear all,<br></div></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><div>To jumpstart this effort I have added some text to the Google doc. With the holidays coming up it might be good to be mindful of the initial deadline set by Rafik for next week Thursday. <br></div></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><div>Looking forward to discuss. <br></div></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Best,<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">please find the google doc here <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YeZ_zCbv2RbLA5ypUnWmwNpTte8lyUOuSzlvToXHLrQ/edit">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1YeZ_<wbr>zCbv2RbLA5ypUnWmwNpTte8lyUOuSz<wbr>lvToXHLrQ/edit</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>Rafik<br></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2016-11-23 3:20 GMT+09:00 hfaiedh ines <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>+ 1 absolutely that would be more efficient.<br></div><div class="m_-6507322289472121021gmail-HOEnZb"><div class="m_-6507322289472121021gmail-h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Le mardi 22 novembre 2016, matthew shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>+ 1 Rafik - that would be very helpful.<br></p><div><br></div><div>On 22/11/2016 06:36, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Shane,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">thanks for this effort to summarise the
discussion, really helpful.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think we can move those items to
either google doc, etherpad and so on to work on the statement
and let people comment directly or proposing edits there.
definitely it is not early to start if we want to find a
consensus based text. if everyone is ok, I can create a google
doc quickly .<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>2016-11-22 14:15 GMT+09:00
Shane Kerr <span dir="ltr"><<a>shane@time-travellers.org</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div><div>Hello,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Apologies if I mis-characterize the
discussion. It is not my intent to<br></div><div>pursue an agenda regarding the discussion
here, but rather to try to<br></div><div>see where we are at and to make sure that the
topic doesn't get dropped.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It seems there are some areas of agreement
regarding ICANN's proposed<br></div><div>anti-harassment policy, but also some areas of
disagreement.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Possible agreement:<br></div><div><br></div><div>* The power of the ombudsperson in this
process needs to be tempered<br></div><div> and/or changed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Probable disagreement:<br></div><div><br></div><div>* Having a list of examples of harassment is a
good idea.<br></div><div>* We should have a procedure for dealing with
vexatious complaints.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Unsure:<br></div><div><br></div><div>* Privacy of everyone should be insured by the
process.<br></div><div>* List of Specified Characteristic is
unwieldy.<br></div><div>* Ongoing harassment should be addressed.<br></div><div>* Specific changes to the role of ombudsperson
in the process. Perhaps a<br></div><div> separate, community (non-staff, non-board)
position for this?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't think that we can get consensus on the
areas of disagreement.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to hope that we can get consensus
on at least some of<br></div><div>those that I am unsure about.<br></div><div><br></div><div>There may be other issues that have not come
up yet, of course.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Possibly we'll need to commit to having an
NCUC response as well as<br></div><div>separate responses by people about issues of
disagreement?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Is it too early to start drafting text about
what we do agree on?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div><br></div><div>--<br></div><div>Shane<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br></div><div><a>Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br></div><div><a rel="noreferrer" href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
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