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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 27, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Hudhayfa Bustanji via Ncuc-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480230821806_111619" class=""><font size="5" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480230821806_111578" class="">Thank you <span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480230821806_111235" class="">Farzaneh. I would like to support the third proposal. </span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480230821806_111620" class=""><font size="5" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480230821806_111621" class=""><font size="5" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;" class="">Huthaifa albustanji</span></font></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 1:06 AM, hfaiedh ines <<a href="mailto:hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com" class="">hfaiedh.ines2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></font></div> <br class=""><br class=""> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6609264566" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi everyone,<div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">I support the second and third proposals, I find them extremely interesting and will be happy to assist.</div></div><div class="yiv6609264566gmail_extra"><br clear="none" class=""><div class="yiv6609264566yqt0826913763" id="yiv6609264566yqtfd84443"><div class="yiv6609264566gmail_quote">2016-11-26 9:36 GMT-03:00 Louise Marie Hurel <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" class="">louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none" class=""><blockquote class="yiv6609264566gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Farzi,<div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">I support proposal 1 and 3 - agree with Ayden and Avri's point.</div><div class="">Please let me know if you need any help, I would be glad to assist.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div></div><div class="yiv6609264566gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class="yiv6609264566h5"><br clear="none" class=""><div class="yiv6609264566gmail_quote">2016-11-26 4:02 GMT-02:00 Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span>:<br clear="none" class=""><blockquote class="yiv6609264566gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" class="">Hopefully if you do a topic similar to what happened in Hyderabad, you will have someone in the lead better informed about ICANN and better able to hold his/her
own amongst registrars and registries than the EFF representative was. I like Mitch and I like EFF but his take on the issue failed to distinguish properly between truly private contracting and ICANN-attributable policy making and he got his butt kicked as
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">I think the proposal 3 can be something similar to High Interest Topic session we had in Hyderabad (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://schedule.icann.org/event/8g4p/dns-and-content-regulation-ncuc-group" class="">https://schedule.icann.org/ev ent/8g4p/dns-and-content-regul ation-ncuc-group</a>)
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">for this year edition of rightscon, we had session about Domain names policies in general with Robin and Mitch from EFF. We covered new gTLD, whois, UDRP etc
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<div class="">Agree that the 3rd proposal might fit the best - it's one of our current concerns at ICANN but it also has a much broader implications than within ICANN spaces (and you put it into a broader perspective of IG anyway). There are already enough examples how
voluntary practices (including content regulation) can become commonly accepted guidelines and then binding obligations. Very timely topic - we all know this; should be a very interesting session.
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<div class="">If we are to submit a couple of them, I think proposal number 3 would be my top choice, and then either RDS/WHOIS and number two (on MS model) from you.
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">Another idea would be to convene a panel on the state of the Registration Directory Service; where the WHOIS protocol has come from, what WHOIS is today, why it is problematic from the perspective of privacy, and how it is evolving – for
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">I think that Rightscon would a great forum for this conversation to take place, because it attracts a diverse audience of policy and advocacy professionals who are fighting censorship, mass surveillance, and Internet access obstacles in
different regions of the world. This is an audience that is as committed as we are to protecting vulnerable populations from cyber attacks, doxing, and swatting – all behaviours that the WHOIS protocol, in its present form, unfortunately harbours – and it
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">I have three suggestions and welcome other suggestions relevant to NCUC's mission, and edits and comments on these proposals to be submitted. We should only submit one proposal as NCUC and the final description should go into more detail.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">ICANN is a private corporation that makes policies affecting domain name registrants globally. Unlike some other Internet corporations and platforms that take decisions unilaterally, ICANN uses a multistakeholder process for policymaking.
Multistakeholder governance is a positive aspect of ICANN governance process. But sometimes there might be a circumvention of a process in generating the policies which might hamper the multistakeholder nature of ICANN governance. Considering the positive
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<div class="yiv6609264566MsoNormal">Private ordering is the generation, implementation and enforcement of policies by a private entity. It has been a phenomenon on the Internet since the governments' oversight was weak or non-existent. Private ordering is used in internet
governance institutions such as ICANN which mainly carry out their policies and implement them through a multistakeholder process and contractual agreements. Such agreements and policies must not lead ICANN to become a content regulator on the Internet. This
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